Posted by Robin Smith on February 14, 2005, 1:45 pm
Cheers got that from soem research over the weeked. Appreciate your
dilligence and I agree totaly now
rgds
> > I see your points but I dont think I made myself clear. I'm interested
> > solely in C02 and am looking for the least polluting sensibly sized car
> >
> If you are interested soley in CO2 emissions, the Prius is King.
> There are several measures of effciency. MPG measures just the amount
> of fuel needed to move the car a certain distance. The CO2, NOX and
> other pollutants generated per mile is a different measure. The Prius
> (last year) was the very cleanest in this regard, and the diesels and
> other technologies did not come close.
> Daniel
Posted by Michelle Steiner on February 12, 2005, 12:06 pm
> I see your points but I dont think I made myself clear. I'm
> interested solely in C02 and am looking for the least polluting
> sensibly sized car
Why only CO2? Don't other pollutants matter?
> I dont mind paying for efficiency, but it seems that the diesel is
> "both" cheaper and more fuel economic that the Prius
Diesel is more expensive than 91 octane around here; does not meet
California emission standards; and very few diesel cars in the USA have
better fuel mileage than the Prius does--and those that do are smaller
than the Prius and are bottom of the line models.
> Now I see the reality in the fuel consumption, its got a long way to
> go and I'm a little sad about this.
The reality of fuel consumption for the Prius is that in real world
operation, it gets between about 46 MPG to well over 50 MPG, depending
on numerous factors, the most important being the conditions of the
average trip and the driving habits of the operator.
My autumn mileage is about 51-53 MPG; my summer and winter mileage is
about 46-48 MPG; I haven't operated a Prius in the Spring yet, but I
expect it to be about the same as Autumn.
--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
Posted by Charles Marslett on February 15, 2005, 4:45 am
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 05:06:39 -0700, Michelle Steiner
>> I see your points but I dont think I made myself clear. I'm
>> interested solely in C02 and am looking for the least polluting
>> sensibly sized car
>Why only CO2? Don't other pollutants matter?
>> I dont mind paying for efficiency, but it seems that the diesel is
>> "both" cheaper and more fuel economic that the Prius
>Diesel is more expensive than 91 octane around here; does not meet
>California emission standards; and very few diesel cars in the USA have
>better fuel mileage than the Prius does--and those that do are smaller
>than the Prius and are bottom of the line models.
>> Now I see the reality in the fuel consumption, its got a long way to
>> go and I'm a little sad about this.
>The reality of fuel consumption for the Prius is that in real world
>operation, it gets between about 46 MPG to well over 50 MPG, depending
>on numerous factors, the most important being the conditions of the
>average trip and the driving habits of the operator.
>My autumn mileage is about 51-53 MPG; my summer and winter mileage is
>about 46-48 MPG; I haven't operated a Prius in the Spring yet, but I
>expect it to be about the same as Autumn.
I have to agree here -- I get about 48 MPG with our 2001 in fall and
spring. I get about 42 MPG in midwinter or the hottest part of
summer. That sort of range is what you will generally see (5-10 MPG
difference between running climate control and not running it).
I also tend to drive over half my miles on trips of less than 10
miles. You will notice that those who get the best gas mileage drive
further on an "average" trip. Same is true of non-hybrid cars, too.
I get about 27 MPG from my Sentra under the same circumstances. So
the Prius seems to be just short of twice the gas mileage of a smaller
but comparable car.
The 2005 has only 3500 miles on it, all this winter, but I've got
between 45 and 50 MPG each fillup (miles driven/gallons added, so as
to avoid any errors in the computer calculated MPG) so it does appear
to beat the 2001 by a hair....
--Charles
> > solely in C02 and am looking for the least polluting sensibly sized car
> >
> If you are interested soley in CO2 emissions, the Prius is King.
> There are several measures of effciency. MPG measures just the amount
> of fuel needed to move the car a certain distance. The CO2, NOX and
> other pollutants generated per mile is a different measure. The Prius
> (last year) was the very cleanest in this regard, and the diesels and
> other technologies did not come close.
> Daniel