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Posted by bigguy on April 2, 2005, 12:19 pm
Ok I think I am convinced. I just ordered the prius with package 6 because
some of the things in package 4 the wife wanted some things from 5 and you
cant mix and match so we ended up with things that neither one of us want to
get what we both wanted so package 6 it is.
But I do have a questions since the engine doesn't start until you are under
way how can you warm up the interior  on cold days like most cars also haw
can you get the ice off windshields

Posted by Fred on April 2, 2005, 1:23 pm
Park in a garage :)
Sorry, I couldn't resist that.  Obviously it's not an option for you.

When first started, the Prius engine will run as needed to warm up the
emission system.  It normally starts 30-60 seconds after pushing the Start
button, because it needs time to cycle coolant from the "thermos" back into
the engine system (you can drive almost immediately after pressing Start:).
Emission warm-up is one of the main reasons winter mileage suffers, but it
also gives you a source of engine heat.

PLUS, the Prius has electric heating coils that come on as needed.  This was
designed in because, as you've already observed, the Prius engine system's
efficiency also reduces it's waste heat.

BUT. . .consider the mileage and emission impact but letting this (or any)
car idle just to warm up.  This temporarily negates two of the main reasons
why you probably bought your Prius.  Finally, remember that everything will
heat up faster if the car is actually being driven. . .

Posted by dbs__usenet on April 2, 2005, 5:36 pm
There are 12 volt heaters available that plug into the cig lighter outlet.


Posted by bigguy on April 2, 2005, 5:39 pm
 that is not acceptable for a 27K car

Posted by Bill on April 2, 2005, 9:26 pm

I don't understand the problem.  I have a Ford Explorer and a Prius.  I live
in MN.  I warm either of them up by starting the engine.  I remove the
heavier ice and snow with my broom/scraper.  I set either of the cars to
direct warm air toward the windshield.  The only difference between the
Prius and the Ford is that once the Prius cab is warm the engine will shut
off, thereby saving me some gas.  Yes, the Ford does have AstroStart and
when it was my only car, I used that occasionally.  I probably wouldn't do
that now given the price of gas.

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