Posted by Was Istoben on August 11, 2009, 6:33 pm
> (rmaheux@cfl.rr.com) says...
>> 6 weeks ago, AT&T announced that effective July 15th, they would no
>> longer
>> provide Usenet access as a part of their internet access services. [...]
>>
>> It seems to me that some lawyer who wants to make a name for him/her self
>> has a very good class action suit against AT&T for their stopping usenet
>> with no fee reduction after 4years of providing the service. Any takers?
> Not too likely. First, I would say you should be happy that AT&T was
> giving you free Usenet access as part of the service until now. There
> once was a time when most ISPs gave Usenet access as part of the
> service, but nearly all of them stopped doing that years ago.
> You won't have much luck trying to sue a company because they stopped
> handing out a freebie. And I'm quite sure the Terms of Service which
> you agreed to (but probably didn't read) gives them an out with this.
> AT&T does have a few lawyers on their payroll.
NNTP was a Freebie? I suppose SMTP, POP, and HTTP services are free too,
huh? My ISP dropped Usenet too. They never listed it as "free" but rather
as part of the bundle I pay for.
Posted by Mr. G on August 12, 2009, 3:56 am
(entshuldigen@oopla.com) says...
>
> NNTP was a Freebie? I suppose SMTP, POP, and HTTP services are free too,
> huh? My ISP dropped Usenet too. They never listed it as "free" but rather
> as part of the bundle I pay for.
Those are protocols, not services. When he says AT&T is dropping
Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
'getting' NNTP.
Posted by Was Istoben on August 12, 2009, 12:08 pm
> (entshuldigen@oopla.com) says...
>>
>> NNTP was a Freebie? I suppose SMTP, POP, and HTTP services are free too,
>> huh? My ISP dropped Usenet too. They never listed it as "free" but
>> rather
>> as part of the bundle I pay for.
> Those are protocols, not services. When he says AT&T is dropping
> Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
> access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
> 'getting' NNTP.
You are correct but nothing is changed. I bought a bundle of services. Are
you saying the Usenet service, which was part of that bundle, was free but
the mail and browsing services were not?
Next I suppose they will drop the mail service like Qwest did. Before long
Internet access will be like Dish Network where you pay for a service that
facilitates paying for another, downstream service. What next? Grocery
stores with cover charges? A toll booth leading to the gas pump?
Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 12, 2009, 1:32 pm
> > Those are protocols, not services. When he says AT&T is dropping
> > Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
> > access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
> > 'getting' NNTP.
>
> You are correct but nothing is changed. I bought a bundle of
> services. Are you saying the Usenet service, which was part of that
> bundle, was free but the mail and browsing services were not?
It all depends on what is advertised, how it is advertised, and/or what
is in the actual contract.
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Posted by Was Istoben on August 12, 2009, 10:34 pm
>> > Those are protocols, not services. When he says AT&T is dropping
>> > Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
>> > access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
>> > 'getting' NNTP.
>>
>> You are correct but nothing is changed. I bought a bundle of
>> services. Are you saying the Usenet service, which was part of that
>> bundle, was free but the mail and browsing services were not?
> It all depends on what is advertised, how it is advertised, and/or what
> is in the actual contract.
Usenet was listed right after mail.
>> 6 weeks ago, AT&T announced that effective July 15th, they would no
>> longer
>> provide Usenet access as a part of their internet access services. [...]
>>
>> It seems to me that some lawyer who wants to make a name for him/her self
>> has a very good class action suit against AT&T for their stopping usenet
>> with no fee reduction after 4years of providing the service. Any takers?
> Not too likely. First, I would say you should be happy that AT&T was
> giving you free Usenet access as part of the service until now. There
> once was a time when most ISPs gave Usenet access as part of the
> service, but nearly all of them stopped doing that years ago.
> You won't have much luck trying to sue a company because they stopped
> handing out a freebie. And I'm quite sure the Terms of Service which
> you agreed to (but probably didn't read) gives them an out with this.
> AT&T does have a few lawyers on their payroll.