Posted by Randy on August 15, 2009, 1:11 pm
The contract stated "internet access" - actual content unstated. For years,
that included Usenet. Then all of a sudden, they stopped providing usenet.
>> > Those are protocols, not services. When he says AT&T is dropping
>> > Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
>> > access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
>> > 'getting' NNTP.
>>
>> You are correct but nothing is changed. I bought a bundle of
>> services. Are you saying the Usenet service, which was part of that
>> bundle, was free but the mail and browsing services were not?
> It all depends on what is advertised, how it is advertised, and/or what
> is in the actual contract.
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Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 15, 2009, 2:55 pm
> The contract stated "internet access" - actual content unstated. For
> years, that included Usenet. Then all of a sudden, they stopped
> providing usenet.
"Internet access" means that they give you an ip address. That's all.
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Posted by Was Istoben on August 15, 2009, 6:10 pm
>> The contract stated "internet access" - actual content unstated. For
>> years, that included Usenet. Then all of a sudden, they stopped
>> providing usenet.
> "Internet access" means that they give you an ip address. That's all.
My ISP advertised a list of services. Usenet was on that list. A fixed IP
address costs more than one randomly selected by DHCP from an address pool.
My ISP has different internet access prices for different bandwidths.
Having no broadband competition (satellite access not-with-standing) they
have developed a take-it-or-leave-it attitude. They are phone company and
have bundled their DSL with land-line and TV services in such a way that the
DSL is cost-prohibitive without the land line.
Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 15, 2009, 6:14 pm
> > "Internet access" means that they give you an ip address. That's
> > all.
> >
> My ISP advertised a list of services. Usenet was on that list.
I'd wager that there was "small print" that said that those services
were subject to change at the whim of the ISP.
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Posted by Was Istoben on August 15, 2009, 6:20 pm
>> > "Internet access" means that they give you an ip address. That's
>> > all.
>> >
>> My ISP advertised a list of services. Usenet was on that list.
> I'd wager that there was "small print" that said that those services
> were subject to change at the whim of the ISP.
Small town telco. No small print. They do whatever they want whenever they
feel like it. If you don't like it, just move to another town.
>> > Usenet, he no doubt means the news servers that he was getting free
>> > access to. Unless they're blocking NNTP traffic, then he's still
>> > 'getting' NNTP.
>>
>> You are correct but nothing is changed. I bought a bundle of
>> services. Are you saying the Usenet service, which was part of that
>> bundle, was free but the mail and browsing services were not?
> It all depends on what is advertised, how it is advertised, and/or what
> is in the actual contract.
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