Posted by Paul Missman on June 5, 2006, 11:06 pm
> How does your car respond if you shift to B mode first? Have you tried it?
> mark_
Mark,
I tried it in a very unscientific experiment. If I'd worked on a looser
pavement, the result might have been different. As far as I could tell,
switching to B had no effect on the anti-skid system. Did the manual say
that it was supposed to defeat this system?
Paul
Posted by Michael Pardee on May 28, 2006, 2:00 pm
> Guys,
> I've been happy with my 2005 Prius, and praised the systems which keep the
> car from skidding on icy roads. However, I've noticed an unexpected side
> effect of this system which could cause potential trouble.
> In an vehicle without an anti-skid system, if you are at an intersection
> making a right turn, and there is oncoming traffic that you decide that
> you can beat, you simply "put the petal to the metal", some small gravel
> flies, and you make your turn onto the other road.
> However, if you try this in a Prius, when you "put the petal to the
> metal", the anti-skid system kicks in, and practically shuts down the
> propulsion system, stopping the gravel from flying, slowing you to a
> crawl, and not letting up until you are most of the way through the turn.
> This can make for a few heart-pounding seconds as you wait for the
> anti-skid system to let up, and hope that the oncoming traffic doesn't
> arrive before you are out of the way.
> Whether you actually clear the intersection faster with the anti-skid
> system, or without, is difficult to know. The psychological effect of
> having acceleration removed from your control, while traffic is fast
> approaching, makes for some interesting physiological effects.
> Without careful measurement, I'd recommend that you not put yourself in
> harms way in this manner. The Prius might actually get you out of the way
> faster than "letting the gravel fly", but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
> Paul
Our 2002 has a different approach to wheel spin. I understand the current
model nearly shuts down power altogether when a wheel spins but the Classic
version just cuts back for a moment and tries again very quickly so it is
not intrusive. I wonder why the change?
Mike
Posted by mrv@kluge.net on May 28, 2006, 4:18 pm
Actually, it's the ABS/traction control, not the anti-skid (VSC)
system.
If the spinning tire were to suddenly catch, it can put a lot of strain
on the drivetrain/transmission.
Posted by Chris Shearer Cooper on June 12, 2006, 2:07 pm
Just to make sure I'm understanding you correctly ... you live in a country
where you drive on the left-hand side of the road, so making a right turn
means you're crossing in front of oncoming traffic.
For those of us in the US, skidding to make a right turn seems like serious
overkill (grin).
> Guys,
> I've been happy with my 2005 Prius, and praised the systems which keep the
> car from skidding on icy roads. However, I've noticed an unexpected side
> effect of this system which could cause potential trouble.
> In an vehicle without an anti-skid system, if you are at an intersection
> making a right turn, and there is oncoming traffic that you decide that
> you can beat, you simply "put the petal to the metal", some small gravel
> flies, and you make your turn onto the other road.
> However, if you try this in a Prius, when you "put the petal to the
> metal", the anti-skid system kicks in, and practically shuts down the
> propulsion system, stopping the gravel from flying, slowing you to a
> crawl, and not letting up until you are most of the way through the turn.
> This can make for a few heart-pounding seconds as you wait for the
> anti-skid system to let up, and hope that the oncoming traffic doesn't
> arrive before you are out of the way.
> Whether you actually clear the intersection faster with the anti-skid
> system, or without, is difficult to know. The psychological effect of
> having acceleration removed from your control, while traffic is fast
> approaching, makes for some interesting physiological effects.
> Without careful measurement, I'd recommend that you not put yourself in
> harms way in this manner. The Prius might actually get you out of the way
> faster than "letting the gravel fly", but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
> Paul
>
Posted by Davoud on June 22, 2006, 5:06 am
Paul Missman wrote:
> Whether you actually clear the intersection faster with the anti-skid
> system, or without, is difficult to know. The psychological effect of
> having acceleration removed from your control, while traffic is fast
> approaching, makes for some interesting physiological effects.
>
> Without careful measurement, I'd recommend that you not put yourself in
> harms way in this manner. The Prius might actually get you out of the way
> faster than "letting the gravel fly", but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
I'm not holier than thou -- I've certainly done this myself, but this
kind of driving is by no means a regular practice with me, and as I've
gotten wiser (though not older, of course) I find that I just don't do
it anymore. Don't recommend it to anyone else, either.
Davoud
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> mark_
Mark,