Posted by Was Istloben on June 12, 2008, 1:06 pm
>> The maximum all-electric range at the time I looked into this was 40
>> miles but I'd guess a practical range would be closer to 30 miles.
>> There wouldn't be a big advantage to a traveling salesperson who
>> drives 200 miles a day since there wouldn't be an opportunity to
>> recharge. Someone with a 30 mile or less round trip commute would
>> save a bundle at my current off-peak rate since they could recharge
>> regularily.
> A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the current
> Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still benefit from the
> hybrid technology.
It requires $.00 gasoline to recharge from the ICE, $.70 gasoline
equivalency to recharge from off-peak at my rate.
Of course the driver will still benefit from hybrid technology, but the
question relates to the gas/electric cost equivalency, not the benefit of
driving a hybrid vehicle.
Posted by Michelle Steiner on June 12, 2008, 3:30 pm
> > A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the
> > current Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still benefit
> > from the hybrid technology.
> >
> It requires $.00 gasoline to recharge from the ICE, $.70 gasoline
> equivalency to recharge from off-peak at my rate.
>
> Of course the driver will still benefit from hybrid technology, but
> the question relates to the gas/electric cost equivalency, not the
> benefit of driving a hybrid vehicle.
But if you exceed the distance available from pure EV, you can't ignore
the ICE.
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Posted by Was Istloben on June 12, 2008, 3:55 pm
>> > A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the
>> > current Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still benefit
>> > from the hybrid technology.
>> >
>> It requires $.00 gasoline to recharge from the ICE, $.70 gasoline
>> equivalency to recharge from off-peak at my rate.
>>
>> Of course the driver will still benefit from hybrid technology, but
>> the question relates to the gas/electric cost equivalency, not the
>> benefit of driving a hybrid vehicle.
> But if you exceed the distance available from pure EV, you can't ignore
> the ICE.
Is there anything you won't argue about?
Posted by Michelle Steiner on June 12, 2008, 4:16 pm
> >> > A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the
> >> > current Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still
> >> > benefit from the hybrid technology.
> >> >
> >> It requires $.00 gasoline to recharge from the ICE, $.70 gasoline
> >> equivalency to recharge from off-peak at my rate.
> >>
> >> Of course the driver will still benefit from hybrid technology,
> >> but the question relates to the gas/electric cost equivalency, not
> >> the benefit of driving a hybrid vehicle.
> >
> > But if you exceed the distance available from pure EV, you can't
> > ignore the ICE.
> >
> Is there anything you won't argue about?
I'm not arguing; I'm discussing. Why don't you give it a try instead of
being in-your-face confrontational?
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Posted by Was Istloben on June 12, 2008, 4:54 pm
>> >> > A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the
>> >> > current Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still
>> >> > benefit from the hybrid technology.
>> >> >
>> >> It requires $.00 gasoline to recharge from the ICE, $.70 gasoline
>> >> equivalency to recharge from off-peak at my rate.
>> >>
>> >> Of course the driver will still benefit from hybrid technology,
>> >> but the question relates to the gas/electric cost equivalency, not
>> >> the benefit of driving a hybrid vehicle.
>> >
>> > But if you exceed the distance available from pure EV, you can't
>> > ignore the ICE.
>> >
>> Is there anything you won't argue about?
> I'm not arguing; I'm discussing. Why don't you give it a try instead of
> being in-your-face confrontational?
The question was:
"What's the relationship cost per kWh power : cost per mile driven?"
The context was "Plug-in Prius by 2010"
I provided information that addressed the question and did so in context. I
doubt you can find anything confrontational in that. Tell us, Michelle,
when did we stray from the question/context and when did this become
confrontational? Was it when you challenged my comment about a PHEV with a
reply about a HEV? Do you consider charging a PHEV with the ICE equivalent
to charging one with electricity at home? I don't. Before you go off half
cocked you may want to read the thread and note the subject.
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>> miles but I'd guess a practical range would be closer to 30 miles.
>> There wouldn't be a big advantage to a traveling salesperson who
>> drives 200 miles a day since there wouldn't be an opportunity to
>> recharge. Someone with a 30 mile or less round trip commute would
>> save a bundle at my current off-peak rate since they could recharge
>> regularily.
> A plug-in hybrid will still recharge from the ICE, just as the current
> Prius does. That 200-mile-a-day driver will still benefit from the
> hybrid technology.