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Posted by DanielleOM on April 21, 2012, 6:56 pm
On 4/19/2012 6:34 AM, rjdriver wrote:

Hi Bob,  Thank you for your in depth reply.  I suppose that I have not
yet ruled out the car.   There are certainly aspects of the car that I
really like.

I thought I would get the two.  From what I see the main difference
between the two and the three are electronic items.


Posted by rjdriver on April 22, 2012, 10:19 pm

I started out with the two in mind.  Figured I would replace the radio with
an aftermarket unit.  The display was just too dim for my eyes.  I hadn't
had steel wheels in a very long time, but was trying to keep it to a certain

In the end, bolstered by a small lottery win, I was able to bridge the gap
between the two and a three with alloy wheels, and that's where I ended up.
Glad I did.  The audio/nav system is really nice.  And keyless entry has
already saved me some scratches near the door handle.  My 9 year old Accord
was full of them.  I'm not sure if the two has voice activation, but that
feature is not just a neat toy, it's a great way to not have to take your
eyes off the road.  I never got into iPods, so I converted a bunch of my CDs
to MP3s,  loaded them on a USB thumb drive, and have that plugged in all the
time.  No fumbling with CDs anymore.   I just say  "Play"  "Bonnie Raite
Luck of the Draw", and a second or two later, the album starts playing.  Of
course, you can do that with MP3s loaded to a smart phone as well.

Dropped into the dealer today with a few questions and they said that C was
getting harder and harder to get, that I was lucky a got mine when I did.
Toyota didn't anticipate the demand.  When they introduced it in Japan in
December they planned on selling 12000/month.  They now have the single
plant making it on constant ovetime to keep up with the sales that are 5
times what they expected.  I got mine before they started their advertising
blitz here in the US.   Now that the word is out more widely, there are not
enough to go around.  I hear one dealer in Florida is tacking a $800
"market adjustement" on top of the sticker price.

It's not a perfect car by any means.  The seats could use lumbar support,
the visors could use extenders, an anti sway bar is needed in the rear to
reduce body lean when you push it hard, and the audio/nav system could use a
sun shade when in direct sunlight, but again - there's that 50-55 MPG
bringing the smile back to my face.

Happy shopping.

Posted by bwilson4web on April 24, 2012, 1:50 pm
 A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
the Prius c:

2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-

I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
my technical questions:

 o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
power efficiency
 o 20 module battery - saves weight
 o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
reduced noise
 o improved control laws - optimized for short trips

The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
competing, compact cars.

Bob Wilson

Posted by News on April 24, 2012, 2:02 pm
 On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:

Sluggish, in my opinion.

Posted by Bruce Richmond on April 24, 2012, 11:22 pm
So don't buy one.

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