Posted by Bruce Richmond on April 25, 2012, 5:09 pm
> On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
> >>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
> >>> the Prius c:
> >>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
> >>> Vehicles
> >>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
> >>> Class
> >>> Vehicles
> >>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
> >>> my technical questions:
> >>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
> >>> power efficiency
> >>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
> >>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
> >>> reduced noise
> >>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
> >>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
> >>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
> >>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
> >>> competing, compact cars.
> >>> Bob Wilson
> >> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > So don't buy one.
> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Guess that will teach me, huh? With some dealers adding on extra mark-
up just because they can, I'm sure the loss of the sale to you will
leave them devestated.
Posted by News on April 25, 2012, 8:10 pm
On 4/25/2012 1:09 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
>> On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
>>
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>>>> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
>>
>>>>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
>>>>> the Prius c:
>>
>>>>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
>>>>> Vehicles
>>>>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
>>>>> Class
>>>>> Vehicles
>>
>>>>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
>>>>> my technical questions:
>>
>>>>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
>>>>> power efficiency
>>>>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
>>>>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
>>>>> reduced noise
>>>>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
>>
>>>>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
>>>>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
>>>>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
>>>>> competing, compact cars.
>>
>>>>> Bob Wilson
>>
>>>> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> So don't buy one.
>>
>> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> Guess that will teach me, huh? With some dealers adding on extra mark-
> up just because they can, I'm sure the loss of the sale to you will
> leave them devestated.
Be sure to demand a discount. And invest in spell-check.
Posted by Bruce Richmond on April 26, 2012, 4:33 am
> On 4/25/2012 1:09 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >> On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >>>> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
> >>>>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
> >>>>> the Prius c:
> >>>>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
> >>>>> Vehicles
> >>>>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
> >>>>> Class
> >>>>> Vehicles
> >>>>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
> >>>>> my technical questions:
> >>>>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
> >>>>> power efficiency
> >>>>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
> >>>>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
> >>>>> reduced noise
> >>>>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
> >>>>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
> >>>>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
> >>>>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
> >>>>> competing, compact cars.
> >>>>> Bob Wilson
> >>>> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> So don't buy one.
> >> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > Guess that will teach me, huh? With some dealers adding on extra mark-
> > up just because they can, I'm sure the loss of the sale to you will
> > leave them devestated.
> Be sure to demand a discount. And invest in spell-check.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
That's a good troll. When you've got nothing go for the spelling
error.
Posted by News on April 26, 2012, 11:17 am
On 4/26/2012 12:33 AM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
>> On 4/25/2012 1:09 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
>>
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>>>> On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
>>>>>>> the Prius c:
>>
>>>>>>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
>>>>>>> Vehicles
>>>>>>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
>>>>>>> Class
>>>>>>> Vehicles
>>
>>>>>>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
>>>>>>> my technical questions:
>>
>>>>>>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
>>>>>>> power efficiency
>>>>>>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
>>>>>>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
>>>>>>> reduced noise
>>>>>>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
>>
>>>>>>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
>>>>>>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
>>>>>>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
>>>>>>> competing, compact cars.
>>
>>>>>>> Bob Wilson
>>
>>>>>> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> So don't buy one.
>>
>>>> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> Guess that will teach me, huh? With some dealers adding on extra mark-
>>> up just because they can, I'm sure the loss of the sale to you will
>>> leave them devestated.
>>
>> Be sure to demand a discount. And invest in spell-check.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> That's a good troll. When you've got nothing go for the spelling
> error.
Troll? Just helping you avoid a sluggish first-year model, and if not
that, save a few bucks on rapacious dealer markups, which you seem
unable to do for yourself.
Posted by Bruce Richmond on April 26, 2012, 11:39 pm
> On 4/26/2012 12:33 AM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >> On 4/25/2012 1:09 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >>>> On 4/24/2012 7:22 PM, Bruce Richmond wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
> >>>>>>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
> >>>>>>> the Prius c:
> >>>>>>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
> >>>>>>> Vehicles
> >>>>>>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
> >>>>>>> Class
> >>>>>>> Vehicles
> >>>>>>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
> >>>>>>> my technical questions:
> >>>>>>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
> >>>>>>> power efficiency
> >>>>>>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
> >>>>>>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
> >>>>>>> reduced noise
> >>>>>>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
> >>>>>>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
> >>>>>>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
> >>>>>>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
> >>>>>>> competing, compact cars.
> >>>>>>> Bob Wilson
> >>>>>> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>> So don't buy one.
> >>>> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>> Guess that will teach me, huh? With some dealers adding on extra mark-
> >>> up just because they can, I'm sure the loss of the sale to you will
> >>> leave them devestated.
> >> Be sure to demand a discount. And invest in spell-check.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > That's a good troll. When you've got nothing go for the spelling
> > error.
> Troll? Just helping you avoid a sluggish first-year model, and if not
> that, save a few bucks on rapacious dealer markups, which you seem
> unable to do for yourself.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
And where did I say that I couldn't avoid those markups, troll? I
only said that some dealers were trying to make them. Most would take
that as a suggestion to shop around and find one that sisn't play that
game. Seems you have a reading comprehension problem.
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> >> On 4/24/2012 9:50 AM, bwilson4web wrote:
> >>> A little pricy, $3/each, I bought two, Toyota SAE papers discussing
> >>> the Prius c:
> >>> 2012-01-1017 - Development of the New THS-II Powertrain for Compact
> >>> Vehicles
> >>> 2012-01-0623 - Development of New Hybrid Transaxle for Sub-Compact-
> >>> Class
> >>> Vehicles
> >>> I don't know your technical background but I found both papers covered
> >>> my technical questions:
> >>> o 1.5L engine with cooled exhaust gas recirculation - improves high-
> >>> power efficiency
> >>> o 20 module battery - saves weight
> >>> o important transaxle design changes - saves weight, volume, and
> >>> reduced noise
> >>> o improved control laws - optimized for short trips
> >>> The 'Prius c' is in effect a refined version of the NHW11 (2001-03)
> >>> but 265 lbs lighter and the practicality of a hatchback. Acceleration
> >>> is not as fast as the 1.8L ZVW30 but it is still faster than
> >>> competing, compact cars.
> >>> Bob Wilson
> >> Sluggish, in my opinion.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
> > So don't buy one.
> Indeed, I fully intended to, but now won't.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -