Posted by Michelle Steiner on March 10, 2007, 11:33 pm
> However, she and many others here have a lot of group experience with
> the NiMH in the Prius application - empirical data trumps theory
> every time.
What theory? He doesn't have a theory; he doesn't even have a
hypothesis. He has mere speculation.
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Posted by Michelle Steiner on March 10, 2007, 11:31 pm
> >> hopefully you're right. but they warrant the battery for 8 yrs,
> >> makes me believe it has a 10-12yr life.
> >
> > Oh, I almost forgot; in some states, the battery warranty is for 10
> > years. Does that mean that it has a 13 to 15 year life?
>
> probably has about a 10-15 yr life, depending on how you drive and
> how hot a climate.. i'm suspecting you know nothing about battery
> technology michelle..best to keep quiet on this.
I'm suspecting that you're wrong. I'm also suspecting that you don't
realize that the relationship between the length of a warranty and the
expected product life is tenuous at best, if at all. best you keep
quiet about this.
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Posted by Michael Pardee on October 23, 2006, 2:16 pm
> As the third year of the model a 2007 Prius should be the most reliable
> of what was already a very reliable line. Drive with confidence.
I agree completely. The 2001 and early 2002s had a handful of design
problems (mostly covered by extended item-specific warranties now), while
the later 2002s and the 2003s were really solid. The 2004 redesign
introduced a few more problems that were addressed in the '05s and '06s. The
'07s and on to the next redesign should be paragons of reliability. There
will probably be lemons, but Toyota does a great job of keeping those to a
minimum.
It's worth noting the 100K mile / 8 year hybrid system warranty for the
benefit of those worrying about surprises in the hybrid system. Few people
have had to take advantage of the hybrid system warranty.
Mike
Posted by mrv@kluge.net on October 18, 2006, 5:12 pm
FKru wrote:
> I am thinking of buying a Toyota Prius Hybrid, but I am not sure how it all
> works. I'm not sure how reliable the whole hybrid system may be, or of any
> maintenance issues with them. Any comments from current owners would be
> appreciated.
You don't need to know how the hybrid system works. Just drive it!
Remember to put gasoline in, and follow the regularly scheduled
maintenance guide ( http://smg.toyotapartsandservice.com/ ), and you'll
be fine.
Consumer Reports has continually placed the Prius in its top picks list
for both a used car and the reliability lists.
http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid@23544
powertrain is warrantied in the US for 5 years/60,000 miles. the hybrid
system is warrantied in the US for 8 years/100,000 miles (which
includes the hybrid battery pack). If you live in a CA-emissions state,
the AT-PZEV Prius' hybrid battery pack is further warrantied out to 10
years/150,000 miles. Warranties are NOT pro-rated, but full coverage.
Remember that Toyota had the first production hybrid on the road - the
Toyota Prius has been out in Japan since 1997 for the 1998 model year.
It was first introduced internationally in 2000 for the 2001 model
year. In 2003 (for the 2004 model year) the car underwent a redesign
(compact sedan to the current midsize hatchback, a better hybrid
system, etc.). Toyota has since put this newer hybrid system on the
Harrier (Lexus RX400H), Kluger (Highlander Hybrid), Camry Hybrid, Lexus
GS450H, Alphard Hybrid, and Estima Hybrids, with plans to put it into
more models in future years.
You'll get way more information asking Toyota Prius owners:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/toyota-prius/
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Prius-2G/
http://www.priusonline.com/
http://www.priuschat.com/
and plenty of Prius information at:
http://www.toyota.com/prius
http://john1701a.com/
http://home.earthlink.net/~jkash1/
Posted by bob on March 5, 2007, 3:55 am
>I am thinking of buying a Toyota Prius Hybrid, but I am not sure how it all
> works. I'm not sure how reliable the whole hybrid system may be, or of any
> maintenance issues with them. Any comments from current owners would be
> appreciated.
the car is reliable with one flaw - it runs much of the time on batteries
that have an 8yr, 100k mile warranty - after which replacement is around
$,000..so, if you can drive it for about 75k miles and sell
it...........should be very reliable/economical.
bob
> the NiMH in the Prius application - empirical data trumps theory
> every time.