Posted by Sylvia Else on July 18, 2009, 2:03 pm
Knobdoodle wrote:
>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah but my missus regularly gets 40mpg in a $5,000 AUD Kia Rio.
>>>>> That's not bullshit "highway cycle" imaginary figures; that's real-life
>>>>> stop-start air-con on driving.
>>>>> Spend an extra $5,000 to get a (very maybe) 8mpg more?!!?
>>>>> You'd have to be beyond idiotic.
>>>> you are talking Imperial gallons I take it
>>>> the 48MPG from a US test would most likely be US gallons
>>>> so work out the MPG again using the 3.8L(or close to it) per gallon and
>>>> see what you get
>>>>
>>> Valid point. Even still; at 48mpg vs 33mpg and fuel at approx $.10L
>>> you'd get 200,000 miles with the $5,000 price difference.
>>> So after 200,000 miles you'd break even (assuming there were no other
>>> costs).
>>> Sounds great!
>> Well, it isn't quite that simple. It depends how quickly you get through
>> your 200,000 miles.
>>
>> The longer it takes, the more interest you could have earned on the
>> $5,000 if you hadn't bought a hybrid, and the more extra petrol you could
>> have bought with the interest.
>>
>> Beyond a certain point, which I can't be bothered to work out, there is no
>> break even point, and the non-hybrid wins forever.
>>
> Yes; another very good point.
> So there's no money-saving, no prestige, no quantifiable "green"
> credentials, they're slow, heavy and they look silly and owning one
> identifies you as a simpleton who's bad at maths.....
> Apart from that they're OK, right?
That pretty much sums it up, I think.
Sylvia.
Posted by Noddy on July 18, 2009, 2:52 pm
> Yes; another very good point.
> So there's no money-saving, no prestige, no quantifiable "green"
> credentials, they're slow, heavy and they look silly and owning one
> identifies you as a simpleton who's bad at maths.....
> Apart from that they're OK, right?
Nailed it :)
--
Regards,
Noddy.
Posted by Lu R on July 18, 2009, 12:06 pm
>> Wait a minute.
>>
>> Let's just look at the obvious: you got 48mpg in a smaller car, and you
>> say that now that a bigger car gets that, fuel economy hasn't come that
>> far????
>>
>> Let's add in the safety and reliability of that newer car, ON TOP OF the
>> fact that it is bigger and can transport 4 people easily and 5 without
>> much difficulty, AND can do that coast to coast, AND can do so with air
>> conditioning and stereo, and...
>>
>> Fuel economy has made TREMENDOUS strides since your 65 Sprite.
>>
> Yeah but my missus regularly gets 40mpg in a $5,000 AUD Kia Rio.
> That's not bullshit "highway cycle" imaginary figures; that's real-life
> stop-start air-con on driving.
> Spend an extra $5,000 to get a (very maybe) 8mpg more?!!?
> You'd have to be beyond idiotic.
> --
> Knob
And you sir are a total moron to compare a Kia Rio in any way to Prius.
LMAO. Here's a pair of glasses old man.
>
Posted by Knobdoodle on July 18, 2009, 12:18 pm
> And you sir are a total moron to compare a Kia Rio in any way to Prius.
> LMAO. Here's a pair of glasses old man.
>>
You're right; people don't point and laugh when Kia Rios drive past......
--
Knob
Posted by Kev on July 18, 2009, 8:51 am
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> 48mpg isn't all that good for a current model hybrid when you consider I
>> easily achieved that with a 1965 Austin Healey Sprite, the Sprite was a
>> much smaller car than the Prius but its now 44yrs old so car fuel
>> economy hasn't come a long way in all that time.
>>
>
> Wait a minute.
>
> Let's just look at the obvious: you got 48mpg in a smaller car, and you
> say that now that a bigger car gets that, fuel economy hasn't come that
> far????
>
> Let's add in the safety and reliability of that newer car, ON TOP OF the
> fact that it is bigger and can transport 4 people easily and 5 without
> much difficulty, AND can do that coast to coast, AND can do so with air
> conditioning and stereo, and...
>
> Fuel economy has made TREMENDOUS strides since your 65 Sprite.
So is this 48MPG US gallons or imperial gallons??
Kev
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>>>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah but my missus regularly gets 40mpg in a $5,000 AUD Kia Rio.
>>>>> That's not bullshit "highway cycle" imaginary figures; that's real-life
>>>>> stop-start air-con on driving.
>>>>> Spend an extra $5,000 to get a (very maybe) 8mpg more?!!?
>>>>> You'd have to be beyond idiotic.
>>>> you are talking Imperial gallons I take it
>>>> the 48MPG from a US test would most likely be US gallons
>>>> so work out the MPG again using the 3.8L(or close to it) per gallon and
>>>> see what you get
>>>>
>>> Valid point. Even still; at 48mpg vs 33mpg and fuel at approx $.10L
>>> you'd get 200,000 miles with the $5,000 price difference.
>>> So after 200,000 miles you'd break even (assuming there were no other
>>> costs).
>>> Sounds great!
>> Well, it isn't quite that simple. It depends how quickly you get through
>> your 200,000 miles.
>>
>> The longer it takes, the more interest you could have earned on the
>> $5,000 if you hadn't bought a hybrid, and the more extra petrol you could
>> have bought with the interest.
>>
>> Beyond a certain point, which I can't be bothered to work out, there is no
>> break even point, and the non-hybrid wins forever.
>>
> Yes; another very good point.
> So there's no money-saving, no prestige, no quantifiable "green"
> credentials, they're slow, heavy and they look silly and owning one
> identifies you as a simpleton who's bad at maths.....
> Apart from that they're OK, right?