> A Prius is far larger than a Corolla or a Kia Rondo.
It's *slightly* larger than a Corolla, and the majority of that extra size
in in luggage capacity. A Chevvy Impala is a large car. To call a Prius a
large car is absolutely ridiculous.
> If you dispute that, that's proof that you want nothing more than to
> argue. If you dispute that, you show that when facts get in your way,
> you ignore them.
Feel free to post whatever size or capacity figures you like to show the
Prius as a "large car". Don't forget to include the Corolla for comparison,
as we'd all like to see how that's almost as large.
> Apple to apples? The Prius is US$000 to US$000 more than a Corolla,
> for 2009 models.
Thanks.
And if you bought a Corolla for 8 thousand buks less, how long would it take
you to use that extra 8 thousand in extra fuel?
> But here's the trick: I don't like how SMALL the Corolla is inside. I
> want a BIGGER CAR. Nothing huge, but something the size of the Prius.
Interesting you should say that, because if you go to the Toyota website
(and I went to the American one just so we can be sure we're comparing
apples with apples here) they list the interior passenger volume of the 2009
Prius 93.7 cubic feet compared to 92.0 for the Corolla. For interior
dimensions the two cars are almost identical in terms of seating capacity,
with a slight advantage in hip room to the Corolla.
The external physical dimensions are also similar, with less than an inch
difference between them anywhere *except* for luggage capacity. Here the
Prius has significantly more space, due entirely to it's rather bulbous rear
door/window arrangement. However that extra rear space is is all up top, in
the "seldom if ever" used area, and you'd be hard pressed to realistically
find yourself in a position where a Corolla wouldn't carry what you needed
but a Prius would.
Looking at all of this, it's hard to fathom how you can consider a Prius to
be "large", and a Corolla too small for you.
> I guess a Camry would do, even if it's a bit bigger than I need. How's
> this: how about I get a 4 cylinder RAV4? It meets my interior size
> requirements. Huh--it's the price of the Prius.
Maybe you should move down here. We're getting a locally built Hybrid Camry
next year :)
> People like you who have no friends or family and can't conceive of the
> notion of wanting/needing to carry people with you--be happy with your
> Corolla. That's fine.
I don't have a Corolla, but thanks anyway. It's amusing watching you think
you have all the answers :)
I have a vehicle called a Ford Territory. You won't know what that is as
they're only sold here. It's a seven seat wagon that I often use to it's
full capacity as, contrary to your beliefs, I have a family and friends who
often travel with me.
> But those for whom the Corolla is too small, because we DO carry others
> with us, what do you suggest? In the Toyota line, you spend around
> US$3,000--on either a Prius or a RAV4.
I'd suggest you drop your bias towards the Corolla being too small and
actually *sit* in one and try it out, as they're not the slightest bit
smaller than the Prius in my experience.
There's two Prius in my wife's department and I drive them on occasion. I
don't think they do anything bad, but they don't do anything particularly
well either and Toyota's claimed fuel economy is nothing like real world
suburban reality. On the other hand, I hired a then new Corolla hatch about
12 months ago while on holiday interstate and it was perfectly adequate for
4 adults, one infant and a shitload of luggage.
I don't own either, am highly unlikely to ever want to and have no
preference or bias one way or the other. To me they're both "appliances"
that are totally uninspiring, but if I had to own either it'd be the Corolla
in a heartbeat. Yes it uses more fuel, but for that small amount of extra
fuel it uses it's a *much* better car to drive, is cheaper to buy, holds
it's value well and is incredibly reliable.
In short, it makes *far* greater economic sense, and this seems to be what
it's all about.
> At least with the Prius, you don't use as much petrol.
That's the *only* difference between a Prius and anything else of it's size,
but you pay a *massive* premium for that privilege.
I don't know about your part of the world, but down here the average period
of ownership for a new car is three years. With the difference in real world
economy between a Prius and a Corolla being around 1.5 litres per 100
kilometers, you'd need to drive the Prius 24 hours a day 7 days a week to
get close to breaking even over the expected life of owning the car.
> And here's a thought: you talk about what I call "Pius" owners, acting
> all smug as though they're saving the world, but here you go acting just
> like them yourself.
Let me fill you in just a little here pal :)
I couldn't care less about "saving the world" or environmental issues. I
enjoy owning and driving cars that spew raw, unburnt fuel into the
atmosphere by the kilogram, and I think "global warming", "environment
change" or whatever you'd like to call it this week is one of the greatest
cons ever pulled over the people's eyes. I couldn't care less about what
other people choose to drive or own.
The fact that you own a Prius and enjoy it is of little interest to me. It's
the *justification* people like you invent for doing so that I find amusing
:)
--
Regards,
Noddy.
> > A Prius is far larger than a Corolla or a Kia Rondo.
>
> It's *slightly* larger than a Corolla, and the majority of that extra size
> in in luggage capacity.
The back seat in the Prius is WAY larger than that of a Corolla.
You've already made up your mind otherwise, though, so who cares.
Others will see it for what it is.
> A Chevvy Impala is a large car. To call a Prius a
> large car is absolutely ridiculous.
No, it's not. The Prius is a right sized car, while the Corolla is too
small for my needs. The Prius is, relative to the Corolla, a large car.
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> The difference is ASTOUNDING.
> Until you've sat inside it, like I have, you can't begin to appreciate
> how different the two are.