Posted by hPSa on May 20, 2011, 3:47 pm
Den 19.05.2011 16:35, skrev Elmo P. Shagnasty:
> In article
>>>>>> Not yet since I'm trusting the ABS to moderate the braking force.
>>>
>>>>> Ohmigod, did you really SAY that? That's a TOTAL non-sequitur.
>>>
>>>> Poor baby, stepped into it again, I see. You are such my bitch.
>>>
>>> <snort> SURE, bob. SURE.
>>
>> Yesterday, we had one of those stop sign controlled incidents where
>> the car on the right assumed I also had a stop sign but I had a yield,
>> the right of way. So they started to pull in front of me. I mashed the
>> brake and felt the reassuring, ABS buzz as the car stopped with a lot
>> of space to spare. Excellent braking!
>>
>> Testing done and passed!<GRINS>
> So your idea of "testing" involves nothing more than your own example of
> "yes it stopped".
>> The physics remains the same.
> Oh, bullshit. You have no data to back you up.
LOL, why would he give you data of any kind. You don't believe him anyway.
hPSa
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on May 20, 2011, 7:16 pm
> > So your idea of "testing" involves nothing more than your own example of
> > "yes it stopped".
> >
> >
> >
> >> The physics remains the same.
> >
> > Oh, bullshit. You have no data to back you up.
> >
>
>
> LOL, why would he give you data of any kind. You don't believe him anyway.
Oh, I get it. Mr. Charts and Graphs doesn't have to provide actual
data, yet the world is supposed to believe him.
Posted by bwilson4web on May 21, 2011, 1:30 am
wrote:
. . .
> Oh, I get it. Mr. Charts and Graphs doesn't have to provide actual
> data, yet the world is supposed to believe him.
This goes to the heart of the matter. I use data, often plotted, to
make sure I understand how the real world works. I don't mind sharing
this with others but first the real world has to persuade me. In
contrast, you bring no facts and data.. Instead, you substitute
rhetoric and worse.
The natural world is a hard task master and doesn't befriend
fools . . . and neither do I. But I'm not above exploiting the a
fool's folly:
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/pri_tire_030.jpg
Given both tires have the same pressure, one of the reasons for using
Sumitomo T4s, easily achieved. So the larger diameter tire has less
flex than the smaller diameter. This avoids the flex heating:
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/pri_tire_01.jpg
This flexing heats the tires by tread, which leads to improved
alignment and lower rolling drag. So I'm reminded of Bob Dylan's
words:
". . .
wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment
I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is
To see you"
Bob Wilson
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on May 21, 2011, 2:54 am
In article
> > Oh, I get it. Mr. Charts and Graphs doesn't have to provide actual
> > data, yet the world is supposed to believe him.
>
> This goes to the heart of the matter. I use data, often plotted, to
> make sure I understand how the real world works.
Except for when you don't--like with braking performance. You provide
no data about braking performance on different tires, yet you happily
claim that there is no difference--simply because "you say so".
That puts all of your "data" to question.
Posted by bwilson4web on May 21, 2011, 5:45 am
wrote:
> In article
> > > Oh, I get it. Mr. Charts and Graphs doesn't have to provide actual
> > > data, yet the world is supposed to believe him.
> > This goes to the heart of the matter. I use data, often plotted, to
> > make sure I understand how the real world works.
> Except for when . . . .
In contrast, nature is consistent and doesn't really care about
whining children with a keyboard which is what I like about this chart
showing tire heating effects:
http://hiwaay.net/~bzwilson/prius/pri_tire_01.jpg
The right hand temperature bands are from a tire with excess camber
and was confirmed with edge wear. To correct it, I bought a camber
adjustment bolt and the tires wear evenly. But the real takeaway is
the tire, relative temperature, the Y-axis. Rolling friction generates
heat and warming the tire is a direct effect. Notice too that higher
pressure leads to less heat.
Bob Wilson
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>>>>>> Not yet since I'm trusting the ABS to moderate the braking force.
>>>
>>>>> Ohmigod, did you really SAY that? That's a TOTAL non-sequitur.
>>>
>>>> Poor baby, stepped into it again, I see. You are such my bitch.
>>>
>>> <snort> SURE, bob. SURE.
>>
>> Yesterday, we had one of those stop sign controlled incidents where
>> the car on the right assumed I also had a stop sign but I had a yield,
>> the right of way. So they started to pull in front of me. I mashed the
>> brake and felt the reassuring, ABS buzz as the car stopped with a lot
>> of space to spare. Excellent braking!
>>
>> Testing done and passed!<GRINS>
> So your idea of "testing" involves nothing more than your own example of
> "yes it stopped".
>> The physics remains the same.
> Oh, bullshit. You have no data to back you up.