Posted by Michelle Steiner on August 16, 2006, 1:02 am
> I'd be surprised if the Prius regenerated when 'coasting',
Be surprised then because it does--unless you're on a hill and the force
of gravity causes the car to keep from slowing down.
> Quite, which is just enough to give a short acceleration boost or run
> some utilities with the IC engine off, but not enough to operate as a
> true electric car for any distance.
It can go a mile or two on battery alone. Quite often while driving
under 42 MPH, you're driving solely on battery power.
> Clearly, there will be people (especially those who have bought Prius
> cars) who are very anxious to claim an optimistic figure. All I'm
> pointing out is that if you want really good fuel efficiency, we've
> been doing it in Europe with diesel cars such as the '3 litre' VW
> Lupo, for years. That's three litres per 100km which equates to
> about 94 mpg (imperial) or, say, 75 mpg (US gallon), and this is
> readily achievable even on long-distance driving.
Fuel economy is only part of the equation; the other part is cost of the
fuel.
And those are considerations that are separate from pollution.
--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
Posted by richard schumacher on August 16, 2006, 3:26 pm
> Clearly, there will be people (especially those who have bought Prius cars)
> who are very anxious to claim an optimistic figure. All I'm pointing out is
> that if you want really good fuel efficiency, we've been doing it in Europe
> with diesel cars such as the '3 litre' VW Lupo, for years. That's three
> litres per 100km which equates to about 94 mpg (imperial) or, say, 75 mpg
> (US gallon), and this is readily achievable even on long-distance driving.
> VW are bringing out even more economical models. In contrast, quoting from
> Wikipedia, "By the European method, the combined fuel economy of the Prius
> is 4.3 L/100 km or 55mpg (US)".
How many of these get equal or better fuel economy while meeting SULEV
emissions requirements? Prius was designed more to minimize emissions
than to minimize fuel consumption.
Posted by Steve Pardoe on August 16, 2006, 3:30 pm
> > Clearly, there will be people (especially those who have bought Prius
cars)
> > who are very anxious to claim an optimistic figure. All I'm pointing
out is
> > that if you want really good fuel efficiency, we've been doing it in
Europe
> > with diesel cars such as the '3 litre' VW Lupo, for years. That's three
> > litres per 100km which equates to about 94 mpg (imperial) or, say, 75
mpg
> > (US gallon), and this is readily achievable even on long-distance
driving.
> > VW are bringing out even more economical models. In contrast, quoting
from
> > Wikipedia, "By the European method, the combined fuel economy of the
Prius
> > is 4.3 L/100 km or 55mpg (US)".
> How many of these get equal or better fuel economy while meeting SULEV
> emissions requirements? Prius was designed more to minimize emissions
> than to minimize fuel consumption.
I understand that - but if you refer back, my initial question focussed
merely on comparisons of fuel consumption, since we don't have the SULEV
stuff in Europe (with a few exceptions, such as central London, where the
Prius is exempt from the Congestion Charge).
Steve
Posted by crystal on August 16, 2006, 9:25 pm
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:26:17 -0500, richard schumacher
>> Clearly, there will be people (especially those who have bought Prius cars)
>> who are very anxious to claim an optimistic figure. All I'm pointing out is
>> that if you want really good fuel efficiency, we've been doing it in Europe
>> with diesel cars such as the '3 litre' VW Lupo, for years. That's three
>> litres per 100km which equates to about 94 mpg (imperial) or, say, 75 mpg
>> (US gallon), and this is readily achievable even on long-distance driving.
>> VW are bringing out even more economical models. In contrast, quoting from
>> Wikipedia, "By the European method, the combined fuel economy of the Prius
>> is 4.3 L/100 km or 55mpg (US)".
>How many of these get equal or better fuel economy while meeting SULEV
>emissions requirements? Prius was designed more to minimize emissions
>than to minimize fuel consumption.
Too bad the same can't be said for a retarded fool like you, dick.
Posted by Horse's Ass on August 17, 2006, 12:56 am
> Too bad the same can't be said for a retarded fool like you, dick.
.....YAWN.....
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