Posted by Marilyn & Bob on April 25, 2007, 4:25 pm
Try it at 60 MPH and see what you get.
--
Peace,
BobJ
>I stopped by the service department of my dealer and asked about the
>mileage I'm getting. The service manager said my 22 MPG was fairly
>typical. He also said that's a little better than what the non-hybrid
>gets, but he did not say specifically how much better.
> I searched Google for mileage information and found a few sites with user
> comments. Again, my 22 MPG seems fairly typical, although others do much
> better.
>>
>>> Hi...
>>>
>>> I recently bought a 2007 Highlander Hybrid Limited AWD-i. My gas
>>> mileage isn't what I thought it would be. I didn't expect to get the
>>> numbers on the window sticker, but I thought it might be close.
>>>
>>> On a recent trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back, I got 22.0
>>> MPG -- that's 750 miles round trip, all freeway driving, much at 80 MPH.
>>> My city driving is about the same -- sometimes a little higher,
>>> sometimes lower.
>>>
>>> If anyone else has a Highlander Hybrid, I would sure appreciate hearing
>>> about your gas mileage experience.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you have an idea what a regular conventional Highlander gets for fuel
>> economy under the same circumstances? I don't.
>>
>
Posted by John B in CA on April 25, 2007, 5:27 pm
Bob,
I can try 60 MPH, but it would be nice to hear from you what gas mileage you
are getting at that speed (if you have a Highlander Hybrid).
Thanks.
John
> Try it at 60 MPH and see what you get.
> --
> Peace,
> BobJ
>>I stopped by the service department of my dealer and asked about the
>>mileage I'm getting. The service manager said my 22 MPG was fairly
>>typical. He also said that's a little better than what the non-hybrid
>>gets, but he did not say specifically how much better.
>>
>> I searched Google for mileage information and found a few sites with user
>> comments. Again, my 22 MPG seems fairly typical, although others do much
>> better.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Hi...
>>>>
>>>> I recently bought a 2007 Highlander Hybrid Limited AWD-i. My gas
>>>> mileage isn't what I thought it would be. I didn't expect to get the
>>>> numbers on the window sticker, but I thought it might be close.
>>>>
>>>> On a recent trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back, I got 22.0
>>>> MPG -- that's 750 miles round trip, all freeway driving, much at 80
>>>> MPH. My city driving is about the same -- sometimes a little higher,
>>>> sometimes lower.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone else has a Highlander Hybrid, I would sure appreciate hearing
>>>> about your gas mileage experience.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have an idea what a regular conventional Highlander gets for fuel
>>> economy under the same circumstances? I don't.
>>>
>>
>>
>
Posted by Ray O on April 29, 2007, 1:52 pm
> Walt,
> Thank you for the reply. The information is very useful.
> As one would expect, there's a huge hit in mileage on the highway between
> 55-70 and 80+. I live in the Berkeley hills (across the Bay from San
> Francisco). Every trip I take starts and ends with a very long, steep
> hill -- a cab driver once told me that our street is the steepest street
> in the Bay Area, including all the San Francisco hills. Clearly, coming
> up this hill once or more per day is taking its toll on my gas mileage.
> On the other hand, compared to the car I replaced with the Highlander -- a
> 2000 Ford Explorer -- I am getting great mileage.
> I was interested in your comment about the battery. I have not noticed
> the battery bars ever going down more than two. Also, it seems that no
> matter how gently I step on the "gas pedal," once the car reaches 15-20
> MPH, the engine starts. I'd never driven a hybrid before buying this car,
> but I was under the impression that it used the electric motor more than
> mine seems to. I will discuss all of this with the dealer when I take it
> for the first service in 2,500 more miles.
> John
I used to live in the Bay Area, and those Berkeley hills are steep! I used
to love driving through those hills and the hill that goes over the
Caldecott Tunnel into Orinda.
The hybrid system provides low speed propulsion and some assistance at
higher speeds, and accelerating (as opposed to cruising at a steady speed)
uses a lot of power, so the internal combustion engine, or ICE, will start
and take over propulsion above 15 or 20 MPH, as you are experiencing.
Running under pure electric power rapidly depletes the battery pack, so if
you were to cruise at 10 ~ 15 MPH, the ICE would probably start after a mile
or two.
The hybrid system reduces the work that the ICE does, but due to limitations
in battery storage capacity, the reduction in the need for the ICE to work
is probably more in the neighborhood of 5 or 10%, not 25 or 50%.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
Posted by John B in CA on April 29, 2007, 3:45 pm
Hi Ray,
I'm learning what the hybrid system does and does not do. Bottom line for
me is that it's a great car and I'm really happy I made the switch from the
Explorer.
Yes, the Berkeley hills and Tilden Park are beautiful, as well as the whole
East Bay Regional Park system. What's particularly amazing is that they are
only ten minutes from downtown Berkeley and Oakland.
John
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> I used to live in the Bay Area, and those Berkeley hills are steep! I
> used to love driving through those hills and the hill that goes over the
> Caldecott Tunnel into Orinda.
> The hybrid system provides low speed propulsion and some assistance at
> higher speeds, and accelerating (as opposed to cruising at a steady speed)
> uses a lot of power, so the internal combustion engine, or ICE, will start
> and take over propulsion above 15 or 20 MPH, as you are experiencing.
> Running under pure electric power rapidly depletes the battery pack, so if
> you were to cruise at 10 ~ 15 MPH, the ICE would probably start after a
> mile or two.
> The hybrid system reduces the work that the ICE does, but due to
> limitations in battery storage capacity, the reduction in the need for the
> ICE to work is probably more in the neighborhood of 5 or 10%, not 25 or
> 50%.
> --
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
Posted by Ray O on April 29, 2007, 3:54 pm
> Hi Ray,
> I'm learning what the hybrid system does and does not do. Bottom line for
> me is that it's a great car and I'm really happy I made the switch from
> the Explorer.
> Yes, the Berkeley hills and Tilden Park are beautiful, as well as the
> whole East Bay Regional Park system. What's particularly amazing is that
> they are only ten minutes from downtown Berkeley and Oakland.
> John
I worked in Benicia, South SF, and San Ramon and miss the beautiful Bay Area
and the Yosemite area. For someone who enjoys fishing, camping, and hiking,
it was like living in a giant playground! Hmmm, maybe it's time to plan a
trip out west!
Enjoy your new Highlander!
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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>mileage I'm getting. The service manager said my 22 MPG was fairly
>typical. He also said that's a little better than what the non-hybrid
>gets, but he did not say specifically how much better.
> I searched Google for mileage information and found a few sites with user
> comments. Again, my 22 MPG seems fairly typical, although others do much
> better.
>>
>>> Hi...
>>>
>>> I recently bought a 2007 Highlander Hybrid Limited AWD-i. My gas
>>> mileage isn't what I thought it would be. I didn't expect to get the
>>> numbers on the window sticker, but I thought it might be close.
>>>
>>> On a recent trip from San Francisco to Los Angeles and back, I got 22.0
>>> MPG -- that's 750 miles round trip, all freeway driving, much at 80 MPH.
>>> My city driving is about the same -- sometimes a little higher,
>>> sometimes lower.
>>>
>>> If anyone else has a Highlander Hybrid, I would sure appreciate hearing
>>> about your gas mileage experience.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Do you have an idea what a regular conventional Highlander gets for fuel
>> economy under the same circumstances? I don't.
>>
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