Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 12, 2010, 11:32 pm
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>
> Oh, boy...
Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
(it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
the front propeller shaft.
Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
process of the front prop shaft.
The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
to early Feb. 2010.
DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
preferred suppliers.
Posted by jim beam on February 13, 2010, 12:42 am
On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>
>> Oh, boy...
> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
> By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
> (it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
> the front propeller shaft.
> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
> process of the front prop shaft.
> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December 2009
> to early Feb. 2010.
> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
> preferred suppliers.
hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
suppliers.
actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
political donations than you do!
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Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on February 13, 2010, 1:00 am
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:42:39 -0800, jim beam wrote:
> On 02/12/2010 08:32 PM, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:12:58 -0500, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
>>
>>> I think I heard they're recalling Toyota trucks because the front
>>> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>>>
>>> Oh, boy...
>>
>>
>> Here's the lowdown. Take a look at who discovered the problem...
>>
>> By now, we’ve lost count of how many vehicles Toyota has recalled
>> (it’s somewhere north of 8.1 million vehicles). According to a Toyota
>> spokesman, the Japanese automaker is also voluntarily recalling
>> approximately 8,000 four-wheel-drive Tacoma pickups to fix a problem in
>> the front propeller shaft.
>>
>> Toyota says that a crack can develop in the rear joint of the Tacoma
>> leading to the driveshaft separating and falling away from the truck.
>>
>> The issue was discovered by Dana Corporation during the manufacturing
>> process of the front prop shaft.
>>
>> The recall affects Tacoma models that were produced from mid-December
>> 2009 to early Feb. 2010.
>>
>>
>> DANA!!! Can you say, "Rusting frames"?
>>
>> If I were Toyota' I think I'd consider dropping Dana from the list of
>> preferred suppliers.
>>
>>
>>
> hopefully toyota will have learned their lesson - don't trust domestic
> suppliers.
I thought CTS was going to be under close scrutiny, but I think Dana is
toast! This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
Tacoma...
Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
rot prematurely!
This recall 'only' affects 8,000 vehicles, but I bet the guys at Dana are
sweating bullets...
>
> actually, two lessons: make sure your competition doesn't spend more on
> political donations than you do!
Yeah, that too. I particularly liked the ads Chevrolet dealers were
running that said, We'll give you $1,000 more than book value!
Sure! Why the hell not? It's *OUR* money!!!
Posted by C. E. White on February 13, 2010, 7:19 pm
>....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
> Tacoma...
> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
> rot prematurely!
Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the Toyota
frames are so bad there are recalls for them?
Google the following:
* rusting Toyota frame recall - 3,420,000 hits
* rusting Ford frame recall - 478,000 hits, and most were actually talking
about the Toyota rusting frames
* rusting Chevrolet frame recall - 1,840,00 hits, and again most of them
were actually talking about Rusting Toyota frames
Try it for yourself...
Given the fact that Ford and Chevrolet have each sold more than 10 times as
many trucks as Toyota, don't you think if they had the same sort of problem
with rusting frames, there be more complaints about them on the internet?
You guys need to quit drinking the Toyota kool-aid. They have repeatedly
shown disregard for there Customer and have to be dragged kicking and
screaming into doing the right thing.
Ed
Posted by jim beam on February 13, 2010, 7:57 pm
On 02/13/2010 04:19 PM, C. E. White wrote:
>> ....This is not as major a recall as the frames; the first round was
>> 1996 or 97 to 2003, huundreds of thousands of trucks Toyota bought back
>> for 150% of Kelley Blue Book, but a lot of them promptly bought a new
>> Tacoma...
>>
>> Only to find out a year or two later it ALSO had a Dana frame that could
>> rot prematurely!
> Dana makes frames for lots of companies. Why does it seem only the
> Toyota frames are so bad there are recalls for them?
> Google the following:
> * rusting Toyota frame recall - 3,420,000 hits
> * rusting Ford frame recall - 478,000 hits, and most were actually
> talking about the Toyota rusting frames
> * rusting Chevrolet frame recall - 1,840,00 hits, and again most of them
> were actually talking about Rusting Toyota frames
> Try it for yourself...
> Given the fact that Ford and Chevrolet have each sold more than 10 times
> as many trucks as Toyota, don't you think if they had the same sort of
> problem with rusting frames, there be more complaints about them on the
> internet?
> You guys need to quit drinking the Toyota kool-aid. They have repeatedly
> shown disregard for there Customer and have to be dragged kicking and
> screaming into doing the right thing.
> Ed
frod just buries their mistakes. literally.
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> propellor shaft can separate (probably at the U-joint...)
>
> Oh, boy...