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Posted by B. Peg on May 16, 2006, 3:40 pm

Not with me.  I get less than they do.

Try this one: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList '  Look
for the Prius under Toyota.  Most all reported from owners are under 48 mpg
through the model's years.  The range among owners of a 2005 model are 32-61
with 47.8 Avg. User reported figures.  I find some in CA getting 35 mpg a
bit odd though.  I know gas gets watered down, but to what degree and where
is it?

Hell, I fish.  Did I ever get a small one?  Wanna see the 10 footer?  Opps,
we ate it.  ;o)
In a realtively small forum, those most enthsiastic report an extremely high
number like in the upper 60's or 70's and skew the data towards the higher
end.  One in the greenhybrid forum (Silk Shorts) reports 71mpg as his
"norm."  In over12,158 miles, he's used 18 tanks of gas for an average of
675.4 miles per tank?  Come on.  You really think someone drives 675 or
better on "every" tank?  More like its calculated with someone missing a
reciept or two.  Rarely will one skew it downward to the same degree to make
it valid, okay add a reciept to the pile to make the mileage drop.  Easier
to forget a reciept and report the subsequent higher milage.  It's too small
of an "enthusiastic" group to be reliable, but their numbers are

I stand by that.  My dealer service manager thinks 44mpg is good.  Wonder
what he thinks is poor?  Next time I'll tell him "I'm getting 34 mpg."  If
he says "That's good,"  I'll know something's wrong.

So you have better gas, terrain, temps, whatever.  Maybe my foot is heavier.
I'll still maintain the average for the car is far less and more like the
mid 40's for most people.  I would say the lowest I got was going over the
Grapevine along I-5 where I averaged 39 mpg.  Rarely do I see over 48mpg on
the screen for any length of time on mine.

I am more curious if it is the car or the driver.  Switching two drivers who
report differing numbers between their respective vehicles, would the
numbers change?  Is it a problem with the car?  Dunno.

We had the MTBE until it was found in the ground water north of here and
they were provided bottled drinking water to the locals.  Since we get the
E-branded stuff, my mpg hit seems less for me.  I have in the past seen
47mpg as a norm for a short while in the summer, but now it's more like
43mpg.  The E-branded stuff costs less in the winter, but it takes more to
get the same range.

Oh, I just checked the screen.  It shows 42.7mpg with 267 miles on the odo.
Even worse than 43mpg that I thought.  ;o)


Posted by Bill on May 16, 2006, 4:54 pm

I've experimented a bit.  If I drive 75 on the interstate my mileage drops
into the your range.  At 55 I consistently meet or beat  the EPA rating.   I
live 3 miles from the nearest town and 60 miles from the nearest city.  A
tank consumed driving back and forth to the small town will yield mileage in
the low 40's.  A tank consumed driving back and forth to the city (at 55
mph) will yield mileage in the low 50's.  A 5 minute drive in the city will
yield mileage in the high 30's.  A 30 minute drive in the city will yield
mileage in the high 60's.

Based on my experience the factors affecting mileage are, in order of
significance, are these:

Duration of trip
Driving Speed
Wind direction/speed
Outside temperature


Posted by =?iso-8859-1?Q?mark=5Fdigital= on May 16, 2006, 10:26 pm

Did you say you live in MA?
This past nine days we've had plenty of rain and the temperature hasn't gone
much above 50, if that. If you've been using your defroster and I hope you
have, your engine pretty much has stayed on while you were stopped.

If a vehicle gets 15 miles to a gallon and loses 1.5 miles when the air is
on people think that's not much. If it gets 20 miles to a gallon and it
loses 2 miles people still think it's not much. But when normal is 50 and
you lose 5 people shriek!! But in each case above it's still 10%. I've said
it before and I'll say it again... When your mileage drops because of the
weather so has everyone else's too. And I bet they refrain from keeping tabs
during this time.


Posted by Michelle Steiner on May 18, 2006, 9:08 pm

I find that the figures for 2004 through 2006 are all between 47 and
47.9 MPG.

If I had reported my mileage a year ago, it would have been about in
that range, but in the past year, I'm averaging between 50 and 51.

I'm in the Phoenix, area; I definitely don't have better temps.  The gas
hasn't changed, but I have increased my mileage by three to four MPG
since a year ago.

Some people on the prius mailing lists have reported that mileage
differed--sometimes by a lot--depending on who was driving the car.

Stop Mad Cowboy Disease:  Impeach the son of a Bush.

Posted by B. Peg on May 19, 2006, 4:30 am

Ya' know.  I just got this car serviced last week and I'm only getting 37.8
mpg on the screen in last 100 miles.

I know they put in Mobil 1 over the old Dino Havoline, but I cannot figure
out why the dramatic drop.

I just checked the tires and they were down to 30 psi all around from
dealer.  I bumped them back up to 40 front, 38 rear.

I'm going to try and set the cruise control at 50, 60, 70, 80, and 90 mph
and see what the thing does at each.  I know I drive fast and am hot off the
line, but still seems low overall compared to others.

Back next week.....


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