Posted by Piper on July 25, 2007, 11:00 pm
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:42:38 -0400, "mark_digital©"
>> schumacher wrote:
>>> The Rabbit was a smoky rattletrap.
>>
>> You miss the point, little one. (The point being that the acclaimed
>> fuel efficiency of the Prius was reached decades ago using more
>> conventional technology. The shortcomings of those early diesels
>> have been overcome at this point in time.)
>>
>> Hybrids make no sense.
>>
>> --
>> Roger Blake
>I still find myself holding my breath and pass as soon as I can if I'm
>following a diesel. They still burn my nostrils. And talk about a freakin'
>racket when stopped next to one.
Or in the bank drive through, when you have to have your window open.
<Gag - gasp!>
-
Piper
Posted by stratus46 on August 1, 2007, 5:29 am
schumacher wrote:
> > The Rabbit was a smoky rattletrap.
> You miss the point, little one. (The point being that the acclaimed
> fuel efficiency of the Prius was reached decades ago using more
> conventional technology. The shortcomings of those early diesels
> have been overcome at this point in time.)
> Hybrids make no sense.
> --
> Roger Blake
> (Subtract 10s for email.)
I had a friend with a Rabbit diesel back in '83. Didn't run nearly as
well as the Prius and while it _sometimes_ went 50MPG, my Prius has
done 52+ for _all_ gas into it for 15000 miles - and it's faster,
quieter, roomier ... but the Rabbit seats _were_ more comfortable.
The household fuel consumption dropped by 13 gallons a week since we
got the Prius with no fewer miles driven.
Hybrids_do_ make sense in southern CA.
GG
Posted by richard schumacher on August 1, 2007, 3:47 pm
> You miss the point, little one. (The point being that the acclaimed
> fuel efficiency of the Prius was reached decades ago using more
> conventional technology. The shortcomings of those early diesels
> have been overcome at this point in time.)
Wonderful! Now we can expect clean, reliable Diesels to conquer the
market. Diesel plug-in hybrids even more so, by virtue of their further
improvement in fuel economy and elimination of failure-prone
conventional transmissions.
Posted by y_p_w on August 7, 2007, 6:10 pm
richard schumacher wrote:
> > > In September, 2004, I bought a Prius for about the same price as a
> > > comparably equipped Camry would have cost, and I've averaged 46 MPG
> > > since then.
> >
> > About the same as a 30-year-old VW Rabbit diesel.
> The Rabbit was a smoky rattletrap.
My uncle drove a Rabbit Diesel w/ a 5-speed. At least until his
doctor told him to give it up after his ears started ringing from the
ear-splitting noise. It had the dual benefits of a loud diesel engine
coupled with virtually no sound insulation. While a modern car door
will go thud, the Rabbit diesel went clank.
Posted by Marc Gerges on July 24, 2007, 8:35 pm
>> In September, 2004, I bought a Prius for about the same price as a
>> comparably equipped Camry would have cost, and I've averaged 46 MPG
>> since then.
>
> About the same as a 30-year-old VW Rabbit diesel. Very impressive.
And you can't even kill yourself using the exhaust fumes of a Prius... :->
I'm in Europe, I've got access to up to date Diesel technology. And most
Diesels, unless they have filters, stink. Not when new or after a year or
two, but when they start aging, they are not fun to drive behind in a
convertible.
cu
.\arc
>>> The Rabbit was a smoky rattletrap.
>>
>> You miss the point, little one. (The point being that the acclaimed
>> fuel efficiency of the Prius was reached decades ago using more
>> conventional technology. The shortcomings of those early diesels
>> have been overcome at this point in time.)
>>
>> Hybrids make no sense.
>>
>> --
>> Roger Blake
>I still find myself holding my breath and pass as soon as I can if I'm
>following a diesel. They still burn my nostrils. And talk about a freakin'
>racket when stopped next to one.