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Posted by Al Falfa on January 19, 2010, 12:38 am

And I would have plugged that in where?

Posted by Al Falfa on January 19, 2010, 12:53 am

That was a bit terse.  David, I think water/ice in the fuel may have caused
this.  Normally I run e10 (Minnesota) but the problem started after filling
the tank in ND, a state that doesn't require 10% ethanol in gasoline
dispensed in the state.  After that fill I drove about 100 miles and then
parked in an auditorium parking lot.  No place to plug in even if I had a
block heater.  About 5 hours later at -27F I started the car and first
experienced the problem.  Then I drove about 100 miles to my garage where
the car sat for several days.  If I had a block heater I could have plugged
it in, but I don't so I didn't.  My 2005 performed admirably at -35F with
heavier oil and the second occurred at only -5F, a piece of cake for any
well maintained car where I live.

The dealership and I are waiting for the temps to drop below zero again.
This problem hasn't occurred in the present +20 - +30 range.

Posted by Al Falfa on January 26, 2010, 8:46 pm

Turns out the starting problem I experienced wasn't unique to my 2010.
During that cold spell at least five 2010's in Fargo ND experienced the
identical problem.  Toyota engineers were called-in.  Their preliminary
determination suggests the 2010 suffers from two problems, the first
involving the engine running very rough when very cold, the second being a
poorly designed motor mount that results in the banging noise while the
engine is running rough.   I've been advised to "live with it" until they
come up with a solution.  The NWS forecasts -11F tomorrow morning and -18F
Thursday morning so it's rock and roll time Minnesota.


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