Posted by Was Istoben on October 8, 2008, 3:14 pm
>> >
>> >> I read all th Q7As every thing was fine until I got down to cost. I am
>> >> going
>> >> to wait more.
>> >
>> > Wait more for the Prius? Is there a problem with the Prius cost? The
>> > Prius is quite affordable.
>>
>> I think he is going to wait more for the Tesla.
> Tesla? There's a Tesla trim level for the Prius? When did that come
> about?
> (he says, writing this in alt.autos.toyota.prius)
> Everybody knows that the Prius isn't an electric car, that the Prius
> isn't a Tesla, and that the Tesla isn't a Prius--right?
> I guess we could go over to the Microsoft Windows newsgroups and start
> randomly talking about Macintosh--after all, they're both computer
> operating systems with a GUI, right?
> I repeat: the Prius isn't an electric car. It's a gasoline car. The
> ONLY--the ONLY--source of energy that's put into the car is gasoline.
> It uses an internal combustion engine to translate that stored gasoline
> energy into energy for the propulsion system.
> The Prius is NOT an electric car.
The Prius captures, stores and uses kinetic energy. Sometimes it operates
as an electric car, especially when backing up or starting from a dead stop.
The Prius has an all-electric mode enabled automatically in U.S. models;
both automatically and under switch control in other, non- U.S. versions.
Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not* its only
propellant. In fact, the captured kinetic energy is largely responsible for
its great gas mileage and long-lasting brakes. It's not an electric car and
its not a gas car. It's a hybrid.
Posted by Michelle Steiner on October 8, 2008, 5:14 pm
> Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not*
> its only propellant.
The ultimate source of that kinetic energy is gasoline.
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Save America; vote for Obama
Posted by Chas Gill on October 8, 2008, 5:54 pm
>> Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not*
>> its only propellant.
> The ultimate source of that kinetic energy is gasoline.
> --
Well, if we are going to be picky, the ULTIMATE source of that kinetic
energy is the Sun, so really it's solar-powered ;-)
Chas
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on October 8, 2008, 8:35 pm
> > The Prius is NOT an electric car.
>
> The Prius captures, stores and uses kinetic energy.
Yep. So?
The kinetic energy comes from--take a deep breath--the burning of
gasoline. Period. No other source of energy causes the kinetic energy.
It's not a Tesla. It's a gas-burning Prius. Only a moron would come
into the Prius newsgroup and talk about a Tesla, just like only a moron
would go into a Windows newsgroup and talk about Macintosh.
> Sometimes it operates
> as an electric car, especially when backing up or starting from a dead stop.
It is never an electric car--the hybrid synergy drive is a SYSTEM that
happens to use electricity as part of the SYSTEM. You
cannot--CANNOT--divorce the electrics from the internal combustion
engine. The two operate as a SYSTEM, unlike the Tesla which is a pure
electric car.
That a car uses electricity to do some things doesn't make it an
electric car. Every car uses electricity to start the engine and to run
the lights and radio; does that mean that we should discuss any and
every car in this forum?
> Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not* its only
> propellant.
The ONLY source of energy put into the Prius is gasoline. Period. It
is a gasoline car. How it manages that gasoline, how the SYSTEM manages
that gasoline energy, is one thing. But make no mistake--and you
repeatedly do--the Prius can do nothing without gasoline being put into
it.
The Tesla does everything without a drop of gasoline put into it, right?
So this is a Prius newsgroup, and the Prius is as unrelated to the Tesla
as it is a Pontiac.
Posted by Was Istoben on October 8, 2008, 9:24 pm
>> > The Prius is NOT an electric car.
>>
>> The Prius captures, stores and uses kinetic energy.
> Yep. So?
> The kinetic energy comes from--take a deep breath--the burning of
> gasoline. Period. No other source of energy causes the kinetic energy.
> It's not a Tesla. It's a gas-burning Prius. Only a moron would come
> into the Prius newsgroup and talk about a Tesla, just like only a moron
> would go into a Windows newsgroup and talk about Macintosh.
>> Sometimes it operates
>> as an electric car, especially when backing up or starting from a dead
>> stop.
> It is never an electric car--the hybrid synergy drive is a SYSTEM that
> happens to use electricity as part of the SYSTEM. You
> cannot--CANNOT--divorce the electrics from the internal combustion
> engine. The two operate as a SYSTEM, unlike the Tesla which is a pure
> electric car.
> That a car uses electricity to do some things doesn't make it an
> electric car. Every car uses electricity to start the engine and to run
> the lights and radio; does that mean that we should discuss any and
> every car in this forum?
>> Because of its ability to capture kinetic energy, gasoline is *not* its
>> only
>> propellant.
> The ONLY source of energy put into the Prius is gasoline. Period. It
> is a gasoline car. How it manages that gasoline, how the SYSTEM manages
> that gasoline energy, is one thing. But make no mistake--and you
> repeatedly do--the Prius can do nothing without gasoline being put into
> it.
> The Tesla does everything without a drop of gasoline put into it, right?
> So this is a Prius newsgroup, and the Prius is as unrelated to the Tesla
> as it is a Pontiac.
Using this logic, then, my Tesla would be a coal car and someone else's
Tesla would be a hydroelectric car. The next guy's Tesla would actually be
running on natural gas and someone else's would be nuclear powered. I find
this quite amusing. I suppose if your grid contains power from multiple
sources the Tesla would have to be a hybrid.
>> >> I read all th Q7As every thing was fine until I got down to cost. I am
>> >> going
>> >> to wait more.
>> >
>> > Wait more for the Prius? Is there a problem with the Prius cost? The
>> > Prius is quite affordable.
>>
>> I think he is going to wait more for the Tesla.
> Tesla? There's a Tesla trim level for the Prius? When did that come
> about?
> (he says, writing this in alt.autos.toyota.prius)
> Everybody knows that the Prius isn't an electric car, that the Prius
> isn't a Tesla, and that the Tesla isn't a Prius--right?
> I guess we could go over to the Microsoft Windows newsgroups and start
> randomly talking about Macintosh--after all, they're both computer
> operating systems with a GUI, right?
> I repeat: the Prius isn't an electric car. It's a gasoline car. The
> ONLY--the ONLY--source of energy that's put into the car is gasoline.
> It uses an internal combustion engine to translate that stored gasoline
> energy into energy for the propulsion system.
> The Prius is NOT an electric car.