Posted by Neo on August 27, 2010, 6:00 am
wrote:
> In article
> > It's closest
> > rival, the 2010 Honda Insight is slightly cheaper
> > but does not match its fuel efficiency
> What you meant to say was, "While its closest rival, the Honda Insight,
> hsa slightly lower mileage, it is cheaper."
> Cost of ownership. You're falling into the same trap that Top Gear
> tried to make in your mind. 45 vs 50? How about $25K vs. $18K? That
> extra $7K can buy quite a lot of gas, more than enough to offset the
> 5mpg difference for the life of the car.
In my street price comparison for comparably equiped vehicles
(2010 Prius III and 2010 Insight EX ) the difference was that
the 2010 honda insight EX price was about $4K cheaper; the
Insight was also cheaper to insure by $600 per year too.
For initial cost, the 2010 Honda Insight had the
advantage over the 2010 Toyota Prius III. The Prius
FE advantage was negated by its costlier insurance
premiums. However, the reason I purchased a
Prius over a an Insight was for a combination
of reasons rather than because cost. The Prius
was also bigger inside, drived better on the
highway, but more importantly the Prius
had a stronger, more active and larger owner/user
base. The Insight did not have a comparable
support groups. So while I though the Insight's
driver's ergonomics were superior - I felt that
the Prius support group would make the overall
transition to hybrid technology easier.
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on August 27, 2010, 5:39 pm
In article
> The Prius
> was also bigger inside, drived better on the
> highway, but more importantly the Prius
> had a stronger, more active and larger owner/user
> base.
Can't ignore those first two points, but my God, people are mindless
sheep who are afraid to do something that not everyone else is doing.
Posted by Daniel who wants to know on August 25, 2010, 3:17 am
> The 3rd Generation Hybrid System Indicator
> and the MPG bar display is a significant
> FE ergonomic improvement over 2nd Generation.
> The EV mode is also useful for quick electric
> accelerations under 24 mph.
To each his own I guess. I simply can't stand the VFD based MID as a
replacement of the touch screen LCD based MFD, that along with many other
reasons is why I hate the 2010 ZVW30. My ideal vehicle is a 2006 NHW20,
fully loaded, with the following mods: EV button, LED light substitutes,
wheel trim ring removal, and front quarter panel hybrid badge removal.
Posted by Neo on August 27, 2010, 6:26 am
> > The 3rd Generation Hybrid System Indicator
> > and the MPG bar display is a significant
> > FE ergonomic improvement over 2nd Generation.
> > The EV mode is also useful for quick electric
> > accelerations under 24 mph.
> To each his own I guess. I simply can't stand the VFD based MID as a
> replacement of the touch screen LCD based MFD, that along with many other
> reasons is why I hate the 2010 ZVW30. My ideal vehicle is a 2006 NHW20,
> fully loaded, with the following mods: EV button, LED light substitutes,
> wheel trim ring removal, and front quarter panel hybrid badge removal.
I preferred the 2006 NHW20's location for
the transmission shifter on the dash; it
made the older 2006 feel more spacious
and less constraint than the 2010.
I find that it is easier for me to monitor
the 2010 Instrumentation panel than
the older 2006 MFD. The only
extras I've gotten have been
a Garmin Nuvi 265wt and a Scangauge II.
I'm thinking of later tinting the windows.
> > It's closest
> > rival, the 2010 Honda Insight is slightly cheaper
> > but does not match its fuel efficiency
> What you meant to say was, "While its closest rival, the Honda Insight,
> hsa slightly lower mileage, it is cheaper."
> Cost of ownership. You're falling into the same trap that Top Gear
> tried to make in your mind. 45 vs 50? How about $25K vs. $18K? That
> extra $7K can buy quite a lot of gas, more than enough to offset the
> 5mpg difference for the life of the car.