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Posted by Leftie on November 23, 2011, 11:33 pm
 
    Nasty, cheap, out-gassing plastics, a rainwater leak that ruined the
carpet, design flaws from excessive engine cooling in cold weather to
controls too small to operate with gloved hands and a vent that makes an
amazing, almost constant rattling noise when the car is moving, our 2010
Prius II has exactly one thing to recommend it: high fuel economy. They
could have done so much better. I'm being reminded of one of Toyota's
more crass "features" this week: the oil change reminder. We have the
two year free maintenance package with our lease, and they will only
change the oil every 10k miles, because that is the factory recommended
interval with full synthetic oil. The oil change reminder light,
however, comes on every *5k* miles. At first it goes out after a few
seconds, but once the 5k milestone has passed, it can only be blanked by
pressing the "Display" button - or by taking the car to a Toyota dealer
for a customer-financed oil change, or telling the dealer to reset the
#@!@@ reminder. There is no excuse for this, as this dash is used in the
Prius only, and the Prius uses only synthetic oil. They just want to
wring a few more dollars from their vict, er, customers...

Posted by Al Falfa on November 24, 2011, 12:41 am
 

    Nasty, cheap, out-gassing plastics, a rainwater leak that ruined the
carpet, design flaws from excessive engine cooling in cold weather to
controls too small to operate with gloved hands and a vent that makes an
amazing, almost constant rattling noise when the car is moving, our 2010
Prius II has exactly one thing to recommend it: high fuel economy. They
could have done so much better. I'm being reminded of one of Toyota's
more crass "features" this week: the oil change reminder. We have the
two year free maintenance package with our lease, and they will only
change the oil every 10k miles, because that is the factory recommended
interval with full synthetic oil. The oil change reminder light,
however, comes on every *5k* miles. At first it goes out after a few
seconds, but once the 5k milestone has passed, it can only be blanked by
pressing the "Display" button - or by taking the car to a Toyota dealer
for a customer-financed oil change, or telling the dealer to reset the
#@!@@ reminder. There is no excuse for this, as this dash is used in the
Prius only, and the Prius uses only synthetic oil. They just want to
wring a few more dollars from their vict, er, customers...

The instructions for resetting the oil change reminder are in the manual.
Takes about 10 seconds.





Posted by Chuck Charlton on November 24, 2011, 2:57 am
 

Also, the 5,000-mile required service does not call for an oil change,
just a check of the oil level.

Posted by Leftie on November 24, 2011, 8:25 am
 Chuck Charlton wrote:

    That reminds me of another complaint: the manual is too bloody long,
with no condensed section of essential instructions. I'm familiar with
"RTFM" and I did try, but I may have to wait for the movie. Scratch
that: we did watch the "movie" that comes with the car, and it wasn't
much help. Still, I'll find out how to reset it. And really, a reminder
for "check of the oil level"???

Posted by bwilson4web on November 24, 2011, 3:52 pm
 
So how much longer is the lease?

I've never consider leasing and haven't looked that the costs. So what
are the terms and conditions?

At the end of the lease, you turn the car in and hopefully find
something more to your liking. But I'm curious about the lease cost
per mile. At the end, what do you expect the final miles to come in
and total lease cost?

I had always assumed leasing was an option more for those who can
expense the lease for business purposes. Since I'm not self-employed,
this has never been an option.

Thanks,
Bob Wilson

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