Posted by Cathy F. on November 21, 2010, 9:30 pm
> "Cathy F." wrote in message
> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010 Prius
> bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires -
> Yokohama
> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
> them
> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my new
> Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
> switching
> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials came
> on
> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited for
> snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked the
> Goodyear
> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows. All-seasons
> in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear Assurance
> TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D. All
> have TireRack ratings in various categories ranging from 7.5 - 9.2. I've
> done a mini spreadsheet to compare them, & it's basically a wash. Will
> need
> to check local prices.
> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
> bought
> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even better
> idea
> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
> road
> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in snow.
> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much! Their
> ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy conditions!
> Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy winter areas is
> beyond me.
> Cathy
> Cathy,
> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires
LOL - after driving with them last winter, if your driveway has *any* degree
of slope, I'm not surprised. ;-P Thank goodness I have a flat driveway!
(Otherwise, I wouold've done this tire search last December or January!)
so I
> bought a set of Bridgestone Blizzak snow/ice tires and a set of rims.
> They completely solved the problem. Since then, the dealer who sold them
> to me (Tires Plus) has switch tires for me each spring and fall at no
> charge. Next best thing to chains.
> Al
Yeah, TAK mentioned the Blizzaks, too.
That's a good deal if he'll switch them out for free each fall & spring. I
assume that's because you purchased the extra set of rims?
Thanks for replying.
Cathy
>
>
Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on November 21, 2010, 4:35 pm
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:30:04 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>
>> "Cathy F." wrote in message
>>
>> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010 Prius
>> bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires -
>> Yokohama
>> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
>> them
>> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my
>> new Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
>> switching
>> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials
>> came on
>> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited for
>> snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked the
>> Goodyear
>> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
>>
>> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows.
>> All-seasons in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear
>> Assurance TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP
>> WinterSport 3D. All have TireRack ratings in various categories ranging
>> from 7.5 - 9.2. I've done a mini spreadsheet to compare them, & it's
>> basically a wash. Will need
>> to check local prices.
>>
>> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
>> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
>> bought
>> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even better
>> idea
>> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
>> road
>> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in snow.
>>
>> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
>> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much! Their
>> ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy conditions!
>> Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy winter areas
>> is beyond me.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> Cathy,
>>
>> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires
>
> LOL - after driving with them last winter, if your driveway has *any*
> degree of slope, I'm not surprised. ;-P Thank goodness I have a flat
> driveway! (Otherwise, I wouold've done this tire search last December or
> January!)
>
> so I
>> bought a set of Bridgestone Blizzak snow/ice tires and a set of rims.
>> They completely solved the problem. Since then, the dealer who sold
>> them to me (Tires Plus) has switch tires for me each spring and fall at
>> no charge. Next best thing to chains.
>>
>> Al
>
> Yeah, TAK mentioned the Blizzaks, too.
>
> That's a good deal if he'll switch them out for free each fall & spring. I
> assume that's because you purchased the extra set of rims?
>
> Thanks for replying.
>
> Cathy
A lot of places do, esp if you're a regular customer.
Posted by Cathy F. on November 21, 2010, 9:37 pm
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:30:04 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>
>>> "Cathy F." wrote in message
>>>
>>> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010 Prius
>>> bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires -
>>> Yokohama
>>> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
>>> them
>>> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my
>>> new Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
>>> switching
>>> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials
>>> came on
>>> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited for
>>> snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked the
>>> Goodyear
>>> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
>>>
>>> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows.
>>> All-seasons in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear
>>> Assurance TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP
>>> WinterSport 3D. All have TireRack ratings in various categories ranging
>>> from 7.5 - 9.2. I've done a mini spreadsheet to compare them, & it's
>>> basically a wash. Will need
>>> to check local prices.
>>>
>>> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
>>> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
>>> bought
>>> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even better
>>> idea
>>> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
>>> road
>>> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in snow.
>>>
>>> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
>>> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much! Their
>>> ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy conditions!
>>> Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy winter areas
>>> is beyond me.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> Cathy,
>>>
>>> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires
>>
>> LOL - after driving with them last winter, if your driveway has *any*
>> degree of slope, I'm not surprised. ;-P Thank goodness I have a flat
>> driveway! (Otherwise, I wouold've done this tire search last December or
>> January!)
>>
>> so I
>>> bought a set of Bridgestone Blizzak snow/ice tires and a set of rims.
>>> They completely solved the problem. Since then, the dealer who sold
>>> them to me (Tires Plus) has switch tires for me each spring and fall at
>>> no charge. Next best thing to chains.
>>>
>>> Al
>>
>> Yeah, TAK mentioned the Blizzaks, too.
>>
>> That's a good deal if he'll switch them out for free each fall & spring.
>> I
>> assume that's because you purchased the extra set of rims?
>>
>> Thanks for replying.
>>
>> Cathy
> A lot of places do, esp if you're a regular customer.
Thanks - yeah, after rdg. Al Falfa's reply, I realized I could maybe strike
a deal with the place where I've always bought my tires.
Posted by =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$ on November 22, 2010, 4:16 am
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:37:59 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:30:04 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> "Cathy F." wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010
>>>> Prius bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires
>>>> - Yokohama
>>>> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
>>>> them
>>>> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my
>>>> new Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
>>>> switching
>>>> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials
>>>> came on
>>>> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited
>>>> for snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked
>>>> the Goodyear
>>>> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
>>>>
>>>> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows.
>>>> All-seasons in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear
>>>> Assurance TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP
>>>> WinterSport 3D. All have TireRack ratings in various categories
>>>> ranging from 7.5 - 9.2. I've done a mini spreadsheet to compare them,
>>>> & it's basically a wash. Will need
>>>> to check local prices.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
>>>> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
>>>> bought
>>>> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even
>>>> better idea
>>>> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
>>>> road
>>>> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in
>>>> snow.
>>>>
>>>> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
>>>> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much!
>>>> Their ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy
>>>> conditions! Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy
>>>> winter areas is beyond me.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>>> Cathy,
>>>>
>>>> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires
>>>
>>> LOL - after driving with them last winter, if your driveway has *any*
>>> degree of slope, I'm not surprised. ;-P Thank goodness I have a flat
>>> driveway! (Otherwise, I wouold've done this tire search last December
>>> or January!)
>>>
>>> so I
>>>> bought a set of Bridgestone Blizzak snow/ice tires and a set of rims.
>>>> They completely solved the problem. Since then, the dealer who sold
>>>> them to me (Tires Plus) has switch tires for me each spring and fall
>>>> at no charge. Next best thing to chains.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>
>>> Yeah, TAK mentioned the Blizzaks, too.
>>>
>>> That's a good deal if he'll switch them out for free each fall &
>>> spring. I
>>> assume that's because you purchased the extra set of rims?
>>>
>>> Thanks for replying.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> A lot of places do, esp if you're a regular customer.
>
> Thanks - yeah, after rdg. Al Falfa's reply, I realized I could maybe
> strike a deal with the place where I've always bought my tires.
Most will match Internet prices. Of course they're going to tack on
installation, etc, just like they would if you bought tires you bought on
the Internet to them.
BTW, I was a 1986 Corolla 5-door hatchback the other day, not 'new', but
not in bad shape at all for this part of the country. Diesel...
Posted by Cathy F. on November 22, 2010, 4:25 am
> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:37:59 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 16:30:04 -0500, Cathy F. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> "Cathy F." wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010
>>>>> Prius bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires
>>>>> - Yokohama
>>>>> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
>>>>> them
>>>>> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my
>>>>> new Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
>>>>> switching
>>>>> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials
>>>>> came on
>>>>> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited
>>>>> for snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked
>>>>> the Goodyear
>>>>> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows.
>>>>> All-seasons in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear
>>>>> Assurance TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP
>>>>> WinterSport 3D. All have TireRack ratings in various categories
>>>>> ranging from 7.5 - 9.2. I've done a mini spreadsheet to compare them,
>>>>> & it's basically a wash. Will need
>>>>> to check local prices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
>>>>> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
>>>>> bought
>>>>> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even
>>>>> better idea
>>>>> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
>>>>> road
>>>>> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in
>>>>> snow.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
>>>>> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much!
>>>>> Their ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy
>>>>> conditions! Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy
>>>>> winter areas is beyond me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cathy
>>>>>
>>>>> Cathy,
>>>>>
>>>>> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires
>>>>
>>>> LOL - after driving with them last winter, if your driveway has *any*
>>>> degree of slope, I'm not surprised. ;-P Thank goodness I have a flat
>>>> driveway! (Otherwise, I wouold've done this tire search last December
>>>> or January!)
>>>>
>>>> so I
>>>>> bought a set of Bridgestone Blizzak snow/ice tires and a set of rims.
>>>>> They completely solved the problem. Since then, the dealer who sold
>>>>> them to me (Tires Plus) has switch tires for me each spring and fall
>>>>> at no charge. Next best thing to chains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, TAK mentioned the Blizzaks, too.
>>>>
>>>> That's a good deal if he'll switch them out for free each fall &
>>>> spring. I
>>>> assume that's because you purchased the extra set of rims?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for replying.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> A lot of places do, esp if you're a regular customer.
>>
>> Thanks - yeah, after rdg. Al Falfa's reply, I realized I could maybe
>> strike a deal with the place where I've always bought my tires.
> Most will match Internet prices. Of course they're going to tack on
> installation, etc, just like they would if you bought tires you bought on
> the Internet to them.
Oh, definitely re: the installation.
> BTW, I was a 1986 Corolla 5-door hatchback the other day, not 'new', but
> not in bad shape at all for this part of the country. Diesel...
Shades of my 5-door '84 liftback... ;-)
> Am reviewing tires to buy for my car before winter sets in. 2010 Prius
> bought in Oct. '09, went through last winter with original tires -
> Yokohama
> Avid S33 - & although last winter was not all that snowy, driving with
> them
> was -not- good. Actually, have never liked the tires that came on my new
> Toyotas (often Integrities, which were also lousy in snow). After
> switching
> to all-seasons (vs. studded snows which I used before before radials came
> on
> the scene), always wound up buying new tires that were better suited for
> snowy winters. And dry roads/cornering, for that matter. Liked the
> Goodyear
> Regatta & Regatta II the best.
> Have whittled it down to 2 all-seasons and 2 dedicated snows. All-seasons
> in the running: Yokohama Avid Envigor and the Goodyear Assurance
> TripleTreds. Snows: Michelin X-Ice Xi2 and Dunlop SP WinterSport 3D. All
> have TireRack ratings in various categories ranging from 7.5 - 9.2. I've
> done a mini spreadsheet to compare them, & it's basically a wash. Will
> need
> to check local prices.
> Anyone know if there's a way to retro look up the ratings for the
> discontinued (several years ago) all-season Goodyear Regattas that I
> bought
> for my '90 & '98 Corollas, by any chance? Would give me an even better
> idea
> re: choosing the new tires, since I was happy with the Regattas in all
> road
> conditions, summer & winter. Held dry roads well, & were good in snow.
> I also looked up the ratings for the tires that came on the Prius: the
> Yokohama Avid S33. Holy crap - no wonder I dislike them so much! Their
> ratings range from 2.9 - 6.1, with only 3.1 - 3.3 for snowy conditions!
> Arghh - *why* they're supplied on cars destined for snowy winter areas is
> beyond me.
> Cathy
> Cathy,
> During the winter I was unable to climb my driveway with the OEM tires