Posted by Cathy F. on September 1, 2006, 10:49 pm
> Drive and price a Corolla THEN decide if you want to spend all of that
> money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
> Corolla for six years.
It came out to about a $K price difference for me when I was figuring them
both out in '04, but then I don't drive a huge amount of miles, & the price
of gas was around - what - <$/gallon then? OTOH, unless already driving a
car that costs over $0K, the Prius won't save you money, even in the long
run. OTOH, it may make one feel better, it is a statement, & its emissions
are even lower than the Corolla's. And it's a cool, fun car (IMO) - lots of
interior space, is a liftback, nicely designed, & that perfect quiet when at
a stoplight or sign is lovely.
Cathy (who's driving her 4th Corolla in a row, but would rather be driving a
Prius at this point)
You might even drive and price a 4cy Camry, if you can put
> up with its lack of power, and still save enough to buy all of its gas for
> three years. ;)
> mike hunt
> toronado455@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> mrv@kluge.net wrote:
>>
>>> The base MSRP
>>> for the Prius starts at $2,175, which is an increase of $50 or 2.1
>>> percent. Full tax credit will be available for purchases completed
>>> through September 2006. The approved credit amount for Prius Hybrid is
>>> $,150.
>>>
>>
>> What is the tax credit?
>>
>> (Don't these cars bring $500-$000 *over* MSRP? A tax credit could
>> cushion the blow.)
>>
>
Posted by Bill on September 1, 2006, 11:30 pm
> Drive and price a Corolla THEN decide if you want to spend all of that
> money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
> Corolla for six years. You might even drive and price a 4cy Camry, if you
> can put up with its lack of power, and still save enough to buy all of its
> gas for three years. ;)
> mike hunt
What will burning that extra gas do to the price of gas? Price follows
demand. It's the law. Also, where do the emissions from burning that extra
gas go? Into the air we breath. Did you know that if you could walk
vertically, you could walk to the end of the life-sustaining portion of our
atmosphere in less than an hour? Did you know that on a 3" scale model of
earth, the life-sustaining portion of the atmosphere would be .001" thick?
I'm 66, and every breath I take contains 5 times the carbon dioxide my
childhood breaths contained. In 2005, the U.S. dumped 1700 million tons of
hydrocarbons into our thin, fragile atmosphere, 24% of the global total.
Volcanic activity accounted for 3% of the global total. Meanwhile, the
burgeoning population of our planet, now over 6 billion and projected to be
from 9 to 11 billion by 2050, cleared and paved more green space, space that
served to clean hydrocarbons from that thin, fragile atmosphere. I ask you,
then, is your analysis part of the problem or part of the solution?
Posted by Cathy F. on September 1, 2006, 11:37 pm
>> Drive and price a Corolla THEN decide if you want to spend all of that
>> money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
>> Corolla for six years. You might even drive and price a 4cy Camry, if
>> you can put up with its lack of power, and still save enough to buy all
>> of its gas for three years. ;)
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
> What will burning that extra gas do to the price of gas? Price follows
> demand. It's the law. Also, where do the emissions from burning that
> extra gas go? Into the air we breath. Did you know that if you could
> walk vertically, you could walk to the end of the life-sustaining portion
> of our atmosphere in less than an hour? Did you know that on a 3" scale
> model of earth, the life-sustaining portion of the atmosphere would be
> .001" thick? I'm 66, and every breath I take contains 5 times the carbon
> dioxide my childhood breaths contained. In 2005, the U.S. dumped 1700
> million tons of hydrocarbons into our thin, fragile atmosphere, 24% of the
> global total. Volcanic activity accounted for 3% of the global total.
> Meanwhile, the burgeoning population of our planet, now over 6 billion and
> projected to be from 9 to 11 billion by 2050, cleared and paved more green
> space, space that served to clean hydrocarbons from that thin, fragile
> atmosphere. I ask you, then, is your analysis part of the problem or part
> of the solution?
He was looking at personal economics, only. But with a Prius (or any other
hybrid), there's more than that going on.
Cathy
>
Posted by Bill on September 2, 2006, 12:13 am
>>
>>> Drive and price a Corolla THEN decide if you want to spend all of that
>>> money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
>>> Corolla for six years. You might even drive and price a 4cy Camry, if
>>> you can put up with its lack of power, and still save enough to buy all
>>> of its gas for three years. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>> What will burning that extra gas do to the price of gas? Price follows
>> demand. It's the law. Also, where do the emissions from burning that
>> extra gas go? Into the air we breath. Did you know that if you could
>> walk vertically, you could walk to the end of the life-sustaining portion
>> of our atmosphere in less than an hour? Did you know that on a 3" scale
>> model of earth, the life-sustaining portion of the atmosphere would be
>> .001" thick? I'm 66, and every breath I take contains 5 times the carbon
>> dioxide my childhood breaths contained. In 2005, the U.S. dumped 1700
>> million tons of hydrocarbons into our thin, fragile atmosphere, 24% of
>> the global total. Volcanic activity accounted for 3% of the global total.
>> Meanwhile, the burgeoning population of our planet, now over 6 billion
>> and projected to be from 9 to 11 billion by 2050, cleared and paved more
>> green space, space that served to clean hydrocarbons from that thin,
>> fragile atmosphere. I ask you, then, is your analysis part of the
>> problem or part of the solution?
> He was looking at personal economics, only. But with a Prius (or any
> other hybrid), there's more than that going on.
> Cathy
Yes he was, Cathy, and that is incredibly short-sighted.
Posted by Andrew Stephenson on September 2, 2006, 1:07 pm
clfr@adelphia.net "Cathy F." writes:
> He [Mike Hunt] was looking at personal economics, only. But
> with a Prius (or any other hybrid), there's more than that
> going on.
Mike seemingly can't be trusted on any subject but, when it comes
to hybrids or any eco-friendly technology, he goes totally bozo.
Notice how he habitually puts (or used to, back when I saw them)
a "LOL" at the end of his posts? In my mind, I translated that
as an effeminate manic giggle and imagined his family hearing it
from another room, then shaking their heads and sighing: "Uh-oh,
Uncle Mike is having another of his turns." He lives way off the
edge of Reality. (Sorry, Mike -- you should think about it.)
--
Andrew Stephenson
> money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
> Corolla for six years.