Posted by Mike Rosenberg on September 2, 2006, 7:17 pm
> Mike seemingly can't be trusted on any subject but, when it comes
> to hybrids or any eco-friendly technology, he goes totally bozo.
>
> Notice how he habitually puts (or used to, back when I saw them)
> a "LOL" at the end of his posts?
This is my first exposure to him since I'm reading this via
alt.autos.toyota.prius, but I have to wonder about someone who lists his
name as both "mike hunt" and "Mike Hunter" - isn't he sure of his
surname?
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Posted by ,dbu., on September 2, 2006, 12:14 am
> > Drive and price a Corolla THEN decide if you want to spend all of that
> > money on a Prius. The money you save will buy ALL of your fuel for the
> > Corolla for six years. You might even drive and price a 4cy Camry, if you
> > can put up with its lack of power, and still save enough to buy all of its
> > gas for three years. ;)
> >
> >
> > mike hunt
> >
> What will burning that extra gas do to the price of gas? Price follows
> demand. It's the law. Also, where do the emissions from burning that extra
> gas go? Into the air we breath. Did you know that if you could walk
> vertically, you could walk to the end of the life-sustaining portion of our
> atmosphere in less than an hour? Did you know that on a 3" scale model of
> earth, the life-sustaining portion of the atmosphere would be .001" thick?
> I'm 66, and every breath I take contains 5 times the carbon dioxide my
> childhood breaths contained. In 2005, the U.S. dumped 1700 million tons of
> hydrocarbons into our thin, fragile atmosphere, 24% of the global total.
> Volcanic activity accounted for 3% of the global total. Meanwhile, the
> burgeoning population of our planet, now over 6 billion and projected to be
> from 9 to 11 billion by 2050, cleared and paved more green space, space that
> served to clean hydrocarbons from that thin, fragile atmosphere. I ask you,
> then, is your analysis part of the problem or part of the solution?
>
>
Well then, it looks like we are on a path to self distruction. What is
the answer? Mass annihilation?
The Earth is not finite and eventually we will be consumed by the Sun as
it converts to a red giant star in a several million years. I'm not
terribly worried as I am almost 64 and a mear molecule or atom of a
grain of sand, maybe even a subatomic particle. Anyway I'm pretty small
in the scheme of this world called Earth. We are ultimately doomed,
there is no mistake about that. What we do seems very insignificant in
the whole scheme of things. What I would like answered is what was
before the universe? Before the so called "big bang". Anyone?
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Posted by Bill on September 2, 2006, 12:51 am
>> >
>> What will burning that extra gas do to the price of gas? Price follows
>> demand. It's the law. Also, where do the emissions from burning that
>> extra
>> gas go? Into the air we breath. Did you know that if you could walk
>> vertically, you could walk to the end of the life-sustaining portion of
>> our
>> atmosphere in less than an hour? Did you know that on a 3" scale model
>> of
>> earth, the life-sustaining portion of the atmosphere would be .001"
>> thick?
>> I'm 66, and every breath I take contains 5 times the carbon dioxide my
>> childhood breaths contained. In 2005, the U.S. dumped 1700 million tons
>> of
>> hydrocarbons into our thin, fragile atmosphere, 24% of the global total.
>> Volcanic activity accounted for 3% of the global total. Meanwhile, the
>> burgeoning population of our planet, now over 6 billion and projected to
>> be
>> from 9 to 11 billion by 2050, cleared and paved more green space, space
>> that
>> served to clean hydrocarbons from that thin, fragile atmosphere. I ask
>> you,
>> then, is your analysis part of the problem or part of the solution?
>>
>>
> Well then, it looks like we are on a path to self distruction. What is
> the answer? Mass annihilation?
First, we have to accept birth control as necessary to the survival of our
species. Educate, educate and educate.
> The Earth is not finite and eventually we will be consumed by the Sun as
> it converts to a red giant star in a several million years.
If you have grandchildren, tell them they can avoid a less dramatic but
none-the-less fatal consequence with some common sense.
I'm not terribly worried as I am almost 64 and a mear molecule or atom of
a
> grain of sand, maybe even a subatomic particle.
Like me, you are one of six billion, inconsequential in the grand scheme of
things, who, as a U.S. resident, contributed many times his proportional
share. Me? I feel guilty about the fuel I wasted and the pollution I've
caused. We did this together, we can solve this together.
Anyway I'm pretty small
> in the scheme of this world called Earth. We are ultimately doomed,
> there is no mistake about that. What we do seems very insignificant in
> the whole scheme of things. What I would like answered is what was
> before the universe? Before the so called "big bang". Anyone?
> --
Me? I'd rather participate in a solution than contemplate an irrelevant
question.
Posted by Paul Russell on September 2, 2006, 7:58 am
,dbu., wrote:
>
> The Earth is not finite
I think you'll find that it is.
Paul
Posted by Andrew Stephenson on September 2, 2006, 1:17 pm
howard@dynosadrok.com " ,dbu.," writes:
> [...] What I would like answered is what was before the
> universe? Before the so called "big bang". Anyone?
AIUI, the latest thinking (which is simply the latest stage in a
decades-long process of idea development) could earn some busier
theorists a living as SF writers. Infinite numbers of universes,
in most of which the rules of physics cause non-stop violence in
nature so severe that life would be impossible anywhere; chances
of the laws of physics "flipping" in our own universe (though we
would probably not live long enough to realise it had happened);
and weirder stuff. There is even a thought that our universe is
an offshoot of others. Creation-from-apparently-nothing becomes
a possibility. We have to change the way we think about what it
means to "exist".
On your (snipped) thoughts on the ultimate futility of life on
Earth: one thing that does tend to survive a species/culture is
ideas. Not all, of course. But, if even one good idea outlasts
us, we've made our mark. What did the myriad lives which carried
earlier lost cultures amount to? Interesting clay pots. Pretty
verses. Curious legends. Daft wrong ideas. Most of us will be
forgotten. That's how it goes. Some of our genes could outlast
us, the way bio-sciences are progressing: in artificial species.
--
Andrew Stephenson
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> to hybrids or any eco-friendly technology, he goes totally bozo.
>
> Notice how he habitually puts (or used to, back when I saw them)
> a "LOL" at the end of his posts?