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Posted by Charlene Blake on October 19, 2004, 3:50 am
Toyota's estimate of engine oil sludge complaints was 3,200 in 2002.
Why then does a Toyota spokesperson, John Hanson, say in a recent
article that there are only about the same number of complaints to
date?  What kind of deceit is that?

With over a thousand dealerships nationwide and several cases of
sludge in a months time, how in the world did Toyota come up with that
number?  Even if not all owners are reporting the problem, are we to
believe that Toyota is naive enough not to know better?

Toyota is making the details of its "Customer Support Program for
Engine Oil Gelation" very hard to find even on its own web site.
Toyota is contributing to the shut down of discussion of the matter on
several web sites, including Edmund's Town Hall, which close the
discussion right after it began!

Toyota is taking lots of money from new Toyota owners for extended
warranties and denying the claims when sludge hits.  Does it know this
will happen?  Isn't this fraud?!?  Is any information given out to
prospective buyers who are shopping for a "certified used" Toyota?
Are they told about the CSP  at a bare minimum?  No, they are not.
Are they duped into buying an extended warranty which will turn out to
be bogus for sludge repairs?  Sure, they are.

How long will Toyota go on denying this problem is related to engine
design or component malfunction?  How long will it keep that
"proprietary data" hidden from the Toyota owners and the buying
public?  How long will this company secretly fight those who wish to
speak out about the matter?  How long will it keep up this charade?

Many Toyota owners would like to know the answers to these questions.
Many cannot believe that a company can carry out its business in this
manner and still be expected to be respected in the marketplace.

Toyota Owners Unite for Resolution


Charlene Blake

Posted by john smith on October 20, 2004, 2:56 am
This is for the prius alone. Go somewhere else to peddle your fear and

Posted by qslim on October 28, 2004, 10:31 pm
 It's not paranoia if it's real, you friggin nutjob.

Posted by Mike Rosenberg on October 28, 2004, 10:46 pm

Okay, I'll bite--what in the world does your response have to do with
the original post?

Mike Rosenberg
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Posted by qslim on October 29, 2004, 10:41 am
 Not a whole lot, really. This crazy lady talking about Toyota "hiding
proprietary data" and "secretly fighting those who try to speak out" makes
me imagine her sitting around with a tin foil helmet on the lookout for
black helicopters.

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