Posted by Michelle Steiner on January 6, 2010, 12:11 am
> > Therefore, this discussion boils down what is the definition of a
> > "hybrid vehicle". You say the Volt is not a hybrid because the
> > gasoline engine does not directly power the wheels. The other
> > viewpoint is that it is a hybrid vehicle because the gasoline engine
> > charges the batteries that power the wheels.
>
> Trains and submarines aren't hybrid vehicles; they call them
> diesel-electrics.
I have yet to see a Volt travel on rails or under water.
--
Member National Rifle Association
Member American Civil Liberties Union
Member Human Rights Campaign
Posted by Al Falfa on January 5, 2010, 9:49 pm
>> > With the Prius, you put in gasoline. Period. The Prius is not an
>> > electric car, anymore than your television is a microcomputer.
>>
>> Not quite that simple; the traction battery is initially charged from an
>> outside source of electricity.
> well, note that I said "YOU" put in gasoline.
> The car is delivered from the delivering dealer all full up with energy.
> To replace that energy, the owner--any owner, at any time down the
> road--fills it with gasoline. That is the ONLY source of energy that
> the car takes in after it leaves the factory.
Well, except when you have a tailwind. :-)
Posted by SMS on January 5, 2010, 5:02 pm
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>> The Volt has a gas tank and a battery.
>> The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy supplies.
>
> Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
> other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
>
> The Volt takes both gasoline and electricity in from outside sources.
>
> The Prius and the Volt are two entirely different technologies. The
> Prius is NOT an electric car by any stretch of the imagination, no
> matter how hard the fanbois want it to be.
Well you can get after-market modifications to the Prius that allow it
to operate as a plug-in hybrid. The Volt will drive the wheels only from
electric motors. The HSD on Toyotas is much more complex and the
gasoline engine can (and usually does) drive the wheels directly).
Posted by Mike Hunter on January 5, 2010, 6:13 pm
That is WHY one is a modern pure electric and the other a hybrid, using
outdated technology
> Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>> The Volt has a gas tank and a battery. The Prius has a gas tank and a
>>> battery. Both have two energy supplies.
>>
>> Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
>> other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
>>
>> The Volt takes both gasoline and electricity in from outside sources.
>>
>> The Prius and the Volt are two entirely different technologies. The
>> Prius is NOT an electric car by any stretch of the imagination, no matter
>> how hard the fanbois want it to be.
> Well you can get after-market modifications to the Prius that allow it to
> operate as a plug-in hybrid. The Volt will drive the wheels only from
> electric motors. The HSD on Toyotas is much more complex and the gasoline
> engine can (and usually does) drive the wheels directly).
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on January 5, 2010, 6:40 pm
> >> The Volt has a gas tank and a battery.
> >> The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy supplies.
> >
> > Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
> > other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
> >
> > The Volt takes both gasoline and electricity in from outside sources.
> >
> > The Prius and the Volt are two entirely different technologies. The
> > Prius is NOT an electric car by any stretch of the imagination, no
> > matter how hard the fanbois want it to be.
>
> Well you can get after-market modifications to the Prius that allow it
> to operate as a plug-in hybrid.
I could push my Prius off a cliff, too, but that doesn't make it an
airplane.
XML site map
> > "hybrid vehicle". You say the Volt is not a hybrid because the
> > gasoline engine does not directly power the wheels. The other
> > viewpoint is that it is a hybrid vehicle because the gasoline engine
> > charges the batteries that power the wheels.
>
> Trains and submarines aren't hybrid vehicles; they call them
> diesel-electrics.