Posted by Mike Hunter on January 5, 2010, 4:50 pm
You are entitled to you own opinion no mater how convoluted it may be. The
engine, that only runs the generator and can NOT motivate the vehicle, runs
at a constant RPM for maximum efficiency.
The EPA is currently working on a CAFE method for pure electrics. The
current rating method used for HYBRIDS would require the EPA to indicate
over 120 MPG for the Volts city mileage.
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> The Volt is technology that is years ahead of any hybrid, it is a true
>> electric, dummy. It's only motivate source of power to the wheels is
>> its electric motor. The engine can not motivate the vehicle. Hybrids
>> are outdated technology. If you do not drive over 40 miles at a time
>> and plug it in, the engine will never need to run.
> Actually, it is a hybrid. It is called a "plug-in hybrid." And you call
> the other poster a dummy. A hybrid means it uses more than one source of
> energy. And it does. It uses both gasoline (or another fuel like diesel or
> ethanol) and electricity.
> Jeff
>>>
>>>> You are confused! The Volt, unlike the Prius hybrid, is a true
>>>> electric vehicle. The only thing its engine does is drive the
>>>> generator. The Volt could be left "on" indefinitely, there is no flow
>>>> of current until you active the motor.
>>>>
>>> A distinction without a difference. The Volt has a gas tank and a
>>> battery. The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy
>>> supplies. Both are hybrids, the specific hardware for turning the wheels
>>> not-with-standing.
>>>
>>>
>>
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on January 5, 2010, 1:10 am
> The Volt has a gas tank and a battery.
> The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy supplies.
Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
The Volt takes both gasoline and electricity in from outside sources.
The Prius and the Volt are two entirely different technologies. The
Prius is NOT an electric car by any stretch of the imagination, no
matter how hard the fanbois want it to be.
Posted by Al Falfa on January 5, 2010, 3:46 am
>> The Volt has a gas tank and a battery.
>> The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy supplies.
> Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
> other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
Let's not get into the kinetic energy thing again. You can split hairs all
you want, Elmo, but most cars can't run on the kinetic energy they capture.
Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on January 5, 2010, 11:04 am
> > Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline. No
> > other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
> >
> Let's not get into the kinetic energy thing again. You can split hairs all
> you want, Elmo, but most cars can't run on the kinetic energy they capture.
It doesn't matter how the Prius manages the available energy; what
matters is how you put energy into the drive system, period.
With the Prius, you put in gasoline. Period. The Prius is not an
electric car, anymore than your television is a microcomputer.
The Volt, however, takes electricity in from the outside. Way, way
different--and that makes it an electric car.
Posted by Al Falfa on January 5, 2010, 3:42 pm
>> > Absolutely not. The Prius has exactly one energy supply: gasoline.
>> > No
>> > other form of energy is placed into the car from any other source.
>> >
>> Let's not get into the kinetic energy thing again. You can split hairs
>> all
>> you want, Elmo, but most cars can't run on the kinetic energy they
>> capture.
> It doesn't matter how the Prius manages the available energy; what
> matters is how you put energy into the drive system, period.
> With the Prius, you put in gasoline. Period. The Prius is not an
> electric car, anymore than your television is a microcomputer.
> The Volt, however, takes electricity in from the outside. Way, way
> different--and that makes it an electric car.
I suppose you will be pulling the batteries and MGs from your Prius then.
This will lighten your load and should, by your reasoning, improve your gas
mileage.
>> The Volt is technology that is years ahead of any hybrid, it is a true
>> electric, dummy. It's only motivate source of power to the wheels is
>> its electric motor. The engine can not motivate the vehicle. Hybrids
>> are outdated technology. If you do not drive over 40 miles at a time
>> and plug it in, the engine will never need to run.
> Actually, it is a hybrid. It is called a "plug-in hybrid." And you call
> the other poster a dummy. A hybrid means it uses more than one source of
> energy. And it does. It uses both gasoline (or another fuel like diesel or
> ethanol) and electricity.
> Jeff
>>>
>>>> You are confused! The Volt, unlike the Prius hybrid, is a true
>>>> electric vehicle. The only thing its engine does is drive the
>>>> generator. The Volt could be left "on" indefinitely, there is no flow
>>>> of current until you active the motor.
>>>>
>>> A distinction without a difference. The Volt has a gas tank and a
>>> battery. The Prius has a gas tank and a battery. Both have two energy
>>> supplies. Both are hybrids, the specific hardware for turning the wheels
>>> not-with-standing.
>>>
>>>
>>