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Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on February 23, 2010, 8:51 pm

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/ancientangler/DilbertBailoutHearing_01.gif?t 66937346

I was busy.

Posted by Tegger on February 23, 2010, 3:33 pm

I have to admit a sense of unease now as well...

The Wall Street Journal had an article a week or so ago that had to do with
the culture of Japan, specifically in relation to the current Toyota
controversy. The article described how, while perfection is always the
goal, the failure to attain it is accompanied by deep social opprobrium.
Japanese culture thus offers considerable encouragement for Japanese to
keep mistakes from public view (to save face) but to fix them them on-the-
fly as quickly as possible.

I wish I'd kept that article, so I could give a link here. Can't remember
the title of it, but the front page of that section was decorated with
several dozen identical pictures of bowing Japanese, arranged in a grid.

However, it must be kept in mind that media coverage of Toyota has, with
the odd exception, been entirely one-sided, and has been presented in
isolation, with absolutely no comparison to other automakers' problems.

The NHTSA has about 40 recall investigations going, only three of which
involve Toyota. I read a comment from an NHTSA official a couple of weeks
ago, where he said he could not understand the flap about Toyota, given how
other automakers are handling their own NHTSA investigations. The comment
was buried towards the bottom of the article it was in, and there was no
elaboration of that comment. Again, I did not keep the article.

What makes me /most/ uneasy about this issue, is that there is now
considerable political pressure on the feds to be seen to be "tough and
mean" on Toyota; to make a show that no corporation can push the government
around. And I am afraid that what the feds eventually do will be
excessively damaging to Toyota as a company, or to the auto industry in

All I want to see is an honest investigation, without vengeance or ass-
covering from the political class. I don't think we're going to get that.


Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on February 23, 2010, 3:41 pm

Pictures don't match, but is this the article?


Posted by Tegger on February 23, 2010, 3:51 pm

That's it!


Posted by jim beam on February 23, 2010, 3:48 pm

On 02/23/2010 07:33 AM, Tegger wrote:

well said.

like "cash for clunkers" didn't work as planned, in that it failed to
stimulate the domestic auto industry, the effect on domestics of this
ridiculous witch hunt will be dramatic.  domestic manufacturers have
lower quality standards and poorer production management than toyota.
if the same standards are applied to them as toyota, with tougher
legislation which is where this will inevitably lead, those guys are in
for a rough ride.  frod may have gotten away with turning investigator's
blind eyes to hundreds of deaths caused by their past cost cutting
decisions, but not any more.  this has serious q.c. and financial
implications for the whole industry, and domestics, as usual, are about
as poorly placed to compete as it's possible to be.

nomina rutrum rutrum

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