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Posted by bwilson4web on September 22, 2011, 4:26 pm
The obvious conclusion is you don't have the right model of Prius (see
thread comparing 2008 and 2010 models.) The 1.8L, ZVW30 Prius has two
major technical advances that directly address low mileage:

1) exhaust heated coolant - for those living in colder climates, this
accelerates warm-up to fuel efficient modes. It also reduces the need
to run the engine, especially in high wind conditions, to preserve
coolant temperature.

2) recirculated, exhaust gas injection - this avoids having to run a
rich mixture at high power settings to preserve the catalytic

Just go down to your local Toyota dealer and see if you can get a
trade-in on your current 1.5L, NHW20 or NHW11 Prius. The production
levels are coming back and new, 1.8L Prius are starting to arrive.
Meanwhile, the shortage has still inflated the price of your older
Prius. Instead of trade-in, you might try Ebay/Craigslist to see if
you can get a better deal than trade-in (often the case.)

Bob Wilson

Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on September 22, 2011, 7:40 pm
In article

That's about the dumbest financial advice anyone could give.

Posted by Daniel who wants to know on September 23, 2011, 8:04 pm
My post had nothing to do with MPG, I get close to 30 combined and over 30
highway with a '97 Lumina and its EPA MPG ratings are roughly half those of
the NHW20. Sure there are things that are improved on the ZVW30
mechanically, but I don't like the aesthetics of it, I dislike the exterior
now, I HATE the suspended arch inside, I HATE the LCD MFD being replaced my
the VFD MID, and I hate the new implementation of SKS.  I also don't like
ORVR being used instead of the bladder, ORVR is OK until the filter plugs
with dust (speaking of an '05 Impala here), then you can't fill up properly.
At least the bladder only has issues when it is cold or on certain pumps.

IMO they should have offered an NHW20ish model that has the new goodies
added without the silliness, IE the radar assisted cruise, EV ECO and PWR
buttons, ETC.

Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on September 23, 2011, 8:21 pm

How does it differ from 2009?


Posted by Daniel who wants to know on September 23, 2011, 8:57 pm
NHW20 either had SKS or it didn't, if it did there were black lock buttons
on the outside of the front doors and the hatch.  ZVW30 has a reduced SKS
that only works on the driver's door, plus the normal version, depending on
the vehicle package.

Onboard refueling vapor recovery.

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