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Posted by Marc Gerges on April 16, 2007, 7:33 pm

My european spec Prius wants to see the dealer once a year at 15000 km
(10000 miles?) interval. What is the difference to a US spec car that
makes it go twice the distance before seeing the dealer?

Little anecdote: back in the 70es when the Japanese started sending cars
to Europe, they didn't have an extensive dealer network and wouldn't
want to send their customers to give cars to european manufacturer
dealerships to get an oil service. So they declared their cars would go
10000 to 15000 km between services. European manufacturers who, until
then, expected their customers to bring their cars in every 5000 or
sometimes even every 3000 km soon decided that their cars would go 10000
km between oil changes, too.



Posted by mrv@kluge.net on April 16, 2007, 8:27 pm

On Apr 16, 3:33 pm, marc.ger...@gmail.com (Marc Gerges) wrote:

US (and I think Canada) NHW11 Prius have 7500 mile/6 month service

US (and I think Canada) NHW20 Prius have 5000 mile/6 month service

Why the change?  I have no idea.  Essentially the same engine and
such...  Although I will speculate that Toyota may have preferred the
shorter 5000 mile interval for tire rotations based on the NHW11's
preference of outside edge wear...

I know that the UK Prius (NHW11 and NHW20) have used 1 year/10,000
mile intervals, similar to much of Europe.  Although the emissions
controls are different between the NA and EU models, the engine is
essentially the same...

Why the short interval in the US, as opposed to Europe?  I have no
idea, but local oil change customs seem to play a large role.  (Europe
is used to longer intervals, while the US is used to the 3month/3000
mile mantra...)

(I've also heard some debate that the motor oil sold in at least the
UK is of better quality than what is sold in the US.)

(Besides the service interval debate across the ponds, there is also
the tire rotation vs. no rotation debate as well...)

Posted by baumgrenze on May 18, 2007, 6:02 pm


I note with interest your comment on the NHW11 and outside edge wear
on tires. I have a 2004 NHW20 and I am seeing the same, but just on
the driver's side of the vehicle. I have a composite photo of all 4
tires in a post on PriusChat, see:


As I state there, I'm troubled because the tire with the most outside
wear spent 60% of its wear time in back and 40% in front, perhaps
suggesting a camber problem with the rear wheel?



Posted by bob on April 17, 2007, 1:58 am

what does the 30k maintenance entail?


Posted by Jean B. on April 17, 2007, 7:14 pm

bob wrote:

I'll try to remember to get the maintenance book out of the
car later today.  Stay tuned.
Jean B.

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