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Posted by Elmo P. Shagnasty on April 12, 2007, 12:21 am

Posted by davmel on April 11, 2007, 6:56 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

Which brilliant mind at Toyota USA came up with the plan of putting
bladders in only the USA models of the Prius?
Why go to all the ridiculous expense of having an unnecessary bladder
which restricts maximum fill up volumes and requires expensive sensors
and costly repairs if fuel escapes the bladder instead of having the
design made for Japan and the rest of the world?
Why do features like EV mode get left out of the USA market when it's
available elsewhere?
World market Prius outside USA without a bladder don't have any problems
with filling up the tank to maximum every time (and in my case I
regularly fill up in excess of 12 gallons with a fill one time being
53.6 litres (just over 14 gallons))
I can't believe that the poor USA Prius drivers therefore only have 75%
of the range before fill up as my Prius.
Does it have something to do with the reason why USA Prius buyers get
screwed with inferior tyres to the standard Michelin tyres provided

Is this just another way that USA companies agree to perpetuate the
'American standards must be different to everywhere else' attitude?

Posted by Michelle Steiner on April 11, 2007, 7:05 pm

I got 510 miles on my last tank of gas.

The bladder is because of emissions controls in the US.

Support the troops:  Bring them home ASAP.

Posted by davmel on April 11, 2007, 8:42 pm

Michelle Steiner wrote:

And I regularly get an average of 620 miles per tank with a few
approaching 750 miles thanks to having no bladder.

Excuse my ignorance but what emissions are you talking about? The tiny
amount of vapour that escapes from the tank when you fill up???
It must be some kind of inside joke that the USA cares about the vapour
emissions from inside the fuel tank of a Prius when almost no other
vehicle has a bladder and the emission is tiny compared to what comes
out of the exhaust pipe.
Surely it would be far more beneficial to limit contaminants in fuel
like sulfer in diesel which still has absurdly high limits in the U.S.
compared to other countries rather than imposing a stupid design feature
for a market that doesn't have a noticeable benefit!

Posted by richard schumacher on April 12, 2007, 12:54 am

On the other hand, how long did it take Europe to stop putting lead in
fuel?  But I agree that the bladder does seem extreme.

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