Posted by DLC on May 25, 2006, 1:57 pm
Recently as I was driving thru rural Alberta, Canada, I noticed long
stretches of power lines where there was only one high voltage wire.
There were transformers along these lines - mainly to feed oil pumps.
I surmise that these lines use a ground and the high voltage line to
feed the transformers.
Posted by Duane C. Johnson on May 25, 2006, 8:36 pm
Hi DLC;
> Recently as I was driving through rural Alberta,
> Canada, I noticed long stretches of power lines
> where there was only one high voltage wire.
Yes, I have seen this also.
> There were transformers along these lines -
> mainly to feed oil pumps.
> I surmise that these lines use a ground and the
> high voltage line to feed the transformers.
That is exactly right, there is an earth connection
at each transformer. The Earth is the return.
BTW, the US system is very similar where the earth
is technically the return. OK, we also have the
earthed overhead wire. The earthed overhead wire is
usually the top most conductor which also serves a
lightning protection function which is absent in
the Canadian system.
Also, the Earth's resistance is much lower than the
earthed conductor.
Duane
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Posted by daestrom on May 26, 2006, 11:26 am
> Hi DLC;
> > Recently as I was driving through rural Alberta,
> > Canada, I noticed long stretches of power lines
> > where there was only one high voltage wire.
> Yes, I have seen this also.
> > There were transformers along these lines -
> > mainly to feed oil pumps.
> > I surmise that these lines use a ground and the
> > high voltage line to feed the transformers.
> That is exactly right, there is an earth connection
> at each transformer. The Earth is the return.
> BTW, the US system is very similar where the earth
> is technically the return. OK, we also have the
> earthed overhead wire. The earthed overhead wire is
> usually the top most conductor which also serves a
> lightning protection function which is absent in
> the Canadian system.
> Also, the Earth's resistance is much lower than the
> earthed conductor.
In most areas of the US they use three-phase or single phase distribution.
This includes a return wire for the current separate from the overhead
ground/lightning protection wire. Just look on the poles in most areas. In
most areas of the US were there is frequent need for electricity, SLER is
not worth it as the losses are higher.
SLER systems are only usable in very remote areas where the running the
return wire would cost more than the necessary transformer and energy losses
of SLER systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_wire_earth_return
daestrom
Posted by DLC on May 26, 2006, 2:24 pm
DLC writes:
Thanks for the information and link. Very interesting.
DLC
daestrom wrote:
>
>> Hi DLC;
>>
>>
>> > Recently as I was driving through rural Alberta,
>> > Canada, I noticed long stretches of power lines
>> > where there was only one high voltage wire.
>>
>> Yes, I have seen this also.
>>
>> > There were transformers along these lines -
>> > mainly to feed oil pumps.
>>
>> > I surmise that these lines use a ground and the
>> > high voltage line to feed the transformers.
>>
>> That is exactly right, there is an earth connection
>> at each transformer. The Earth is the return.
>>
>> BTW, the US system is very similar where the earth
>> is technically the return. OK, we also have the
>> earthed overhead wire. The earthed overhead wire is
>> usually the top most conductor which also serves a
>> lightning protection function which is absent in
>> the Canadian system.
>>
>> Also, the Earth's resistance is much lower than the
>> earthed conductor.
>>
>
> In most areas of the US they use three-phase or single phase
> distribution. This includes a return wire for the current separate from
> the overhead ground/lightning protection wire. Just look on the poles
> in most areas. In most areas of the US were there is frequent need for
> electricity, SLER is not worth it as the losses are higher.
>
> SLER systems are only usable in very remote areas where the running the
> return wire would cost more than the necessary transformer and energy
> losses of SLER systems.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_wire_earth_return
>
>
> daestrom
>
Posted by Solar Flare on May 26, 2006, 6:00 pm
OMG!
"Daddy! Why do the cows refuse to drink from the water trough until
they die of dehydration?"
"Can you say 'tingle voltage', my dear?"
>> Hi DLC;
>>
>>
>> > Recently as I was driving through rural Alberta,
>> > Canada, I noticed long stretches of power lines
>> > where there was only one high voltage wire.
>>
>> Yes, I have seen this also.
>>
>> > There were transformers along these lines -
>> > mainly to feed oil pumps.
>>
>> > I surmise that these lines use a ground and the
>> > high voltage line to feed the transformers.
>>
>> That is exactly right, there is an earth connection
>> at each transformer. The Earth is the return.
>>
>> BTW, the US system is very similar where the earth
>> is technically the return. OK, we also have the
>> earthed overhead wire. The earthed overhead wire is
>> usually the top most conductor which also serves a
>> lightning protection function which is absent in
>> the Canadian system.
>>
>> Also, the Earth's resistance is much lower than the
>> earthed conductor.
>>
> In most areas of the US they use three-phase or single phase
> distribution. This includes a return wire for the current separate
> from the overhead ground/lightning protection wire. Just look on
> the poles in most areas. In most areas of the US were there is
> frequent need for electricity, SLER is not worth it as the losses
> are higher.
> SLER systems are only usable in very remote areas where the running
> the return wire would cost more than the necessary transformer and
> energy losses of SLER systems.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_wire_earth_return
> daestrom
>
> > Recently as I was driving through rural Alberta,
> > Canada, I noticed long stretches of power lines
> > where there was only one high voltage wire.
> Yes, I have seen this also.
> > There were transformers along these lines -
> > mainly to feed oil pumps.
> > I surmise that these lines use a ground and the
> > high voltage line to feed the transformers.
> That is exactly right, there is an earth connection
> at each transformer. The Earth is the return.
> BTW, the US system is very similar where the earth
> is technically the return. OK, we also have the
> earthed overhead wire. The earthed overhead wire is
> usually the top most conductor which also serves a
> lightning protection function which is absent in
> the Canadian system.
> Also, the Earth's resistance is much lower than the
> earthed conductor.