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Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on August 3, 2008, 2:46 am
On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:26:15 -0700 (PDT), bealiba@gmail.com wrote:

What is sad is your inability to tell truth from fiction.

Was that when you specified four of them in parallel?

Oh, you blamed that on "typos", as if anyone would believe that.

To paraphrase what I wrote before, it's amazing that you stumbled on a
battery that would work.  It took you a few tries to get the configuration
correct.  And you still have no idea, nor see any problem, with your
divergence from the mfg 1 hr rating of 161 Ah.  You keep blathering about
this being to 1.8VPC, as if there were any significant energy to be
harvested from that battery by going to some unspecified lower voltage.  Or
some other way to get more energy out of the cell, known only to you and
Peukert, and which you cannot divulge.

Wow, you can actually use the Internet to find unusual, insulting words.

It's too bad that learning about how batteries work, and how Peukert's
theories should be applied, is not amenable to your simplistic approach.

I note your grammar and spelling is up to your usual standards in that
sentence.  See if you can find and correct your errors.  So far as the meat
of the sentence is concerned, the many errors you have posted in both
categories is in this thread (and many others, for that matter) for all to
see.  The most famous are even documented at


And we see here an example of George's "correct" formula:

That's only because you failed at trying to sell it in the past.  I believe
you now have it fairly priced.

Wayne was prescient.

Posted by bealiba on August 2, 2008, 2:36 pm
Oh yeah, as you have no hope,

sialoquent - adj - Apt to spray saliva when speaking

slotterhodge - n - A messy eater

maschalephidrosis - adj - Runaway armpit perspiration

Have a nice day

Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on August 2, 2008, 3:13 pm
 On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:44:24 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld

He may be modeling his powohr consultint rationalizations on religious
logic. Which goes like this - one gives credit to a higher power for
being saved from a tornado, without thinking about who dropped the
tornado in the first place.  :-)

That's an insult strategy the ghinius has yet to think of - attaching
my name to all his deezines!   :-)  Regardless, the 1.2 exponent was
superceded once he recommended a specific battery. Just another
example of getting busted by his own transparently selective memory.

And yet he did it anyway!

... which George just agreed with! What a great struckcheral edatir!

Having failed to earn a living at powir consutling or edateeng,
perhaps George has decided to go this route.

That's the thing about a learning disability - it can be tough for the
afflicted to disguise... unless he's just smart enough to shut up.

Yup, especially since his target audience, those who might be baffled
by all the numbers flying around, won't have any trouble recognizing
George's deception in that particular entry.

Too bad that he chopped off his hands off with previous wisdumb, where
he's on record against operating loads at the most advantageous time.
If not for that, he could grab the life preserver you threw him -
lessening the current by the PV supply at the loaded voltage. It makes
all the difference in the application in hand.

In his defense <snorf>, he's handicapped by a compulsion to match all
new information with his previous BS.

"Wow, I thought *my* job was tough" - Sisyphus  

Even though he has the whole Internet at his fingertips, apparently
the only sites he trusts are the ones I recommend! I further contend
that he trusts only *my* opinion, although at this point he's probably
ready to accept yours as well. You'll know that you've reached my
level of trustworthiness when he pulls out his thesaurus and rains
down a load of his profeshunal riter foolishness.  :-)

Poor old George, still pretending that there simply *must* be some
hidden capacity, so long as he specifies an inverter that can operate
at less than 10.8V! But I must have missed where he posted the specs
for that.  :-)

You might have noticed that George has never recommended battery
monitors, and pretends that he can measure battery SOC just as easily
with a volt meter. Which begs the question - exactly what SOC does he
believe 1.8V per cell represents?

On Planet Ghio, 9 minutes = 9 seconds! No wonder his brain never has
time to function properly!

George's latest theerys are going to make a wonderful addition to
http://www.citlink.net/~wmbjk/tbfduwisdumb.htm . I'm especially going
to enjoy writing up the part about how one can't know the current
involved with a battery maker's capacity-and-time specs. It's as if he
decided to give up any pretense of being serious in favor of parodying


Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on August 2, 2008, 10:11 pm
 On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:13:35 -0700, wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:

Many have said words to the effect, "'Tis far better to keep one's mouth
shut, and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt"

That is only one of his many handicaps.

I see he's already done that.

In addition to the many other misstatements by George in this thread,
consider his unique theory of mathematics and time, wherein 1.15 hrs = 1 hr
+ 0.09 minutes.


Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on August 3, 2008, 6:51 pm
 On Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:11:15 -0400, Ron Rosenfeld

Perhaps he's finally taken heed. It appears that he's run off, taking
with him all the secrets of the amazing 882.35W/10V inverter, the
magic batteries, and his useless spreadsheet along with all the
bungled designs it generated. But the quackish nature of his blunders
is definitely getting worse, and I predict that his future missives
are likely to be even more ludicrous than his Peukert nonsense.

Congratulations! Think of him as a dog wishing he could operate a can
opener. Sure, he'll chew the sofa and crap in the house once in a
while to show you his own skills while remaining blind to how the cans
got there, but he'll always be in awe of anyone who can open them. :-)

That's a typical blunder from a true Renaissance nitwit. I believe
he's incapable of the pragmatism he'd need to practice in order to
ever gain any credibility in these newsgroups. Instead, he'll continue
to use his "workshop" to crank out nothing better than
endlessly-repeated deep-thinking such as "there's no such thing as a
modified sine wave".


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