Posted by spaco on July 22, 2008, 8:09 pm
I wonder if the OP has committed suicide yet.
We will probably never know because he probably threw his computer
out the window and went back to nature after all the flaming that goes
on here. Please keep your feud to yourselves. It doesn't further any
Posted by jp838 on July 22, 2008, 10:06 pm
Yes, the OP never replied and the topic is running for ... a while.
It's the same in most newsgroups I subscribe. I really wonder what
kind of people they are?
Posted by wmbjkREMOVE on July 23, 2008, 3:16 pm
People who prefer having limits on what's posted should stick with
moderated newsgroups. There are plenty of those where the nitwit
contributors are banned, eliminating the need to counter their BS.
On Usenet people like ghio can post as much incompetence as they like,
and others are free to correct and ridicule it. Which reminds the
newbs to avoid his tunnel vision and to never send him any money.
That's at least somewhat useful when compared to the above posts from
the two of you. If you insist on reading Usenet even though the free
speech aspect doesn't really suit you, then at least stop reading the
threads you don't like. You can also killfile individual posters. Feel
free to start with me, since if there was a way to do it, I'd prevent
both of you from reading my posts.
Posted by spaco on July 23, 2008, 3:36 pm
Posted by Morris Dovey on July 23, 2008, 4:28 pm
I think I qualify as a newbie (or less, perhaps a pre-newbie) in the PV
arena but I'd really like to see George put up a web page with the
photos of what he's done at home. I don't doubt that it could have been
done better (and I suspect that he'd admit that to anyone but Wayne),
but it would provide a sense of what's possible and how one person
approached the problem. BTW, he /does/ have some interesting photos.
George and I might disagree (perhaps vehemently) on a wide range of
issues, but if I lived in his neighborhood I think I'd benefit from
stopping by for a visit to look at and ask questions about his installation.
I'm certain the stuff I've shown on my own web site could all have been
done better by other people - but yesterday the server logged a couple
of thousand hits from people who thought they'd benefit from a quick
look-see, and to tell the truth I'd be pleased if they all decided that
after seeing how I did something, they could then do it better.
When a newbie's simple question devolves into acrimony and posturing,
everyone loses. The the argumentive types reveal themselves as being
unable to have a rational, mature, problem-solving discussion (and so
lose the credibility they might well deserve) and the newbie learns
nothing that he can trust as a solution to his problem.
If Wayne and George can't agree on something, I (and others) might learn
something from a constructive discussion that leads to a meeting of
minds - but this newbie doesn't learn anything useful from shouting and
My two cents worth.
DeSoto, Iowa USA