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Posted by Eeyore on February 12, 2009, 10:24 pm

David Williams wrote:

One of the WORST returns on investment there is and a popular
misconception that it's that important compared to wall and roof
insulation. (and draft exclusion).

Wrong as ever you thread breaking MORON.


Posted by daestrom on February 13, 2009, 12:42 am
Eeyore wrote:

No Graham, you are wrong.  You apply your mild weather experience to the
world as a whole and think that double-glazed windows are always a losing

All you have to do is live in an area where it gets down to below 20F (-7C)
for a coule of months and double glazed windows pay for themselves quite
nicely.  In places like this, attic/wall insulation is a forgone conclusion
and the next step is windows and stopping drafts.

P.S.  And to think, you usually Americans for not being very 'worldly'.

Posted by daestrom on February 14, 2009, 3:33 pm
 Bill wrote:

Well, to be fair about it, many folks won't get a good return if their
energy/electricity rates are very low, or if they don't use much for heating

If you don't spend very much on heating or A/C, then insulation of any sort
takes a long time to pay back.  Of course if you live in the 'great white
north' or some place where it actually gets rather cold (or so hot you run
the A/C a lot), then that changes the numbers.

Amen to that.  One of my goals in building my current house was low
maintenance and low operating costs.  Unfortunately, the one aspect of
'operating costs' I didn't have a lot of control over was property taxes.
So the *next* house, I'll be that much smarter about it. :-)


Posted by Randy on February 18, 2009, 1:58 am

Or you could do what I did and triple glaze.
The salesman said I would sleep much better with these quieter windows but
my wife still snores just as loud as before.
I am however insulating everything I can such as the roof but the walls are
going to be fun, vinyl siding with 2 inch under.
I recieved government help on this but they wouldn't go for blowing
insulation into the walls. Finances were the problem. Siding was done to
contain lead paint
So I may rip out the lathe and plaster exterior walls to install roll
insulation or blow in from the inside so I can try to patch a bunch of
little plaster circles.
My main point is have an energy audit done on your home that is sometimes
provided no cost by government or utilities, then follow thier advice. They
have been there, done that.
Then have fun with solar as you wish.

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