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Posted by songbird on October 17, 2016, 4:21 pm
Martin Eastburn wrote:

  it sounds like a large system for a business?
any storage?


Posted by Martin Eastburn on October 18, 2016, 3:07 am

Not a big 1000 panel unit - but a good start.

25 panels and generates (theory) 6.5KW for my Library behind the house.
a.k.a. office building Metal and 3 local air conditioners with 300  
gallon fish tank - umpteen pumps - this computer and a Coke box running.

In the winter - more clear, but shorter days - it will be stacking for  
heating the greenhouse to keep it warm as needed.  Have thermal barrels  
in there.

No storage.  (Rats).  The array won't start unless 60 Hz is running.
(so I turn off the top breaker, add a generator or maybe a battery  
generator - give it a frequency to match - so the PLL can lock on the
frequency in several cycles and the inverter starts up the array and  
makes power...)

It is smaller than what I could consume in the building if I pushed it,
e.g. don't have the smoker cranking or LED's for Color / Christmas  
cranking... TV .....

Wish I had a 10kw but another 12k or so was a bit high.  We figure
we will honestly make 800kWh a month.  We average 1600-2000kWh a month.
And cutting the bill in half or on a good summer day pay the bill (we  
hope) is good.  Payout is expected in 5-7 years.  Insured for 25 years  
on maintaining quality level and power.


On 10/17/2016 11:21 AM, songbird wrote:
 > Martin Eastburn wrote:
 >> Well the meter man (was a man) installed new software into the meter
 >> and I discussed the double cutoffs outdoors at the Inverter and one
 >> inside at the breaker panel.
 >> Since then, over a Megawatt Hours has been generated.  Naturally during
 >> cloudy days and rain.  But there have been some nice sky now and then.
 >> Meters, no waveforms.   Measured voltage.  then looked at the array.
 >> He was impressed with the install - pro level - made me feel better.
 >> (must be some slop out there in the area.)
 >   it sounds like a large system for a business?
 > any storage?
 >   songbird

On 10/17/2016 11:21 AM, songbird wrote:

Posted by songbird on October 19, 2016, 8:33 pm
 Martin Eastburn wrote:

  ah, mancave...

  the fishtank is also a good heatsink.  :)

  it is rare we'd use more than 800kWh in most months.
unfortunately it's often too cloudy here in the winter
i can't imagine it making any sense at all to do solar
here but some people are.  i guess if the price keeps
going down eventually it will make sense.

  are you selling the extra energy back to the power

  if not, figure out how to dump extra heat into more
big tanks of water, especially as winter approaches,
thermal mass is nice to have when you get some cool/
cloudy days in a row.


Posted by Martin Eastburn on October 20, 2016, 1:50 am
 After I use what I use and there is more left, remember the inverter  
uses power all of the time..., the excess goes to the power supplier.
They pay me less than I pay them but at least I get paid.  I'll have to
wait and see what they do and determine if my kw is better in batteries
or other tech.

Fish tank - no heat sink... - I have both heater and cooler (heaters  
fail with heater on) and 5 pumps.  I don't burn the lights often.  They  
are special and are needed sometimes.  I need to buy those special lamps  
in LED. It is a salt tropical fish tank.  Warm water dumping RH into the  
air.  Have -RH unit running in two rooms.

Super man cave. 26x70

On 10/19/2016 3:33 PM, songbird wrote:

Posted by songbird on October 20, 2016, 5:49 pm
 Martin Eastburn wrote:

  sounds like fun.  :)

  i used to have a small reef tanks, but could not
take them with me when i moved so i sold everything

  good luck, cheers,  


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