Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on November 2, 2008, 6:22 pm
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:57:44 -0800 (PST), busdweller
>My home should get a total payback in about 7 or 8 years after rebates
>and tax brakes. Make no mistake about it. When considering a PV
>investment you “must” think long term. Amarica is a great place but we
>all seem to want it all right now. My moma used to tell me, She'd say
>Den, "Good things come in time" My Moma never lie's, at least I don't
>think she does }:o)
>Peace along the way
>Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
That may be, but given the numbers posted by the OP, his cost of
electricity would have to be around $.37/kWh to result in that short of a
payback.
He's already on the grid.
In my case, I had a $0K system installed and payback was instantaneous.
But that's because mine is off-grid, and it would have cost more than that
for grid extension. And that's with no rebates or tax breaks.
--ron
Posted by busdweller on November 4, 2008, 10:32 am
> On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:57:44 -0800 (PST), busdweller
> >My home should get a total payback in about 7 or 8 years after rebates
> >and tax brakes. Make no mistake about it. When considering a PV
> >investment you must think long term. Amarica is a great place but we
> >all seem to want it all right now. My moma used to tell me, She'd say
> >Den, "Good things come in time" My Moma never lie's, at least I don't
> >think she does }:o)
> >Peace along the way
> >Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
> That may be, but given the numbers posted by the OP, his cost of
> electricity would have to be around $.37/kWh to result in that short of a
> payback.
> He's already on the grid.
> In my case, I had a $0K system installed and payback was instantaneous.
> But that's because mine is off-grid, and it would have cost more than that
> for grid extension. And that's with no rebates or tax breaks.
> --ron
Hi Ron
Being off-grid is a whole different story. Im off -grid and get no
rebates. But for me independence is all the rebate I need.
Peace along the way
Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.
Posted by Ron Rosenfeld on November 4, 2008, 11:56 am
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:32:30 -0800 (PST), busdweller
>Hi Ron
>Being off-grid is a whole different story. Im off -grid and get no
>rebates. But for me independence is all the rebate I need.
Oh, I concur with that. And we've been off-grid since 2001, with ZERO
(unplanned) power outages. Unlike the local electric company which seems
to have a plethora of outages.
--ron
Posted by Eeyore on November 4, 2008, 4:25 pm
Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
> >Hi Ron
> >
> >Being off-grid is a whole different story. Im off -grid and get no
> >rebates. But for me independence is all the rebate I need.
> Oh, I concur with that. And we've been off-grid since 2001, with ZERO
> (unplanned) power outages. Unlike the local electric company which seems
> to have a plethora of outages.
Off-grid is of course an excellent reason to have solar PV esp in regions
closer to the equator.
To use it when on-grid is close to barking mad.
Graham
Posted by Eeyore on October 29, 2008, 6:50 pm
David Williams wrote:
> -> I had my ~ 2mm thin glass Victorian windows rebuilt with 6 mm laminatated gl
> -> Cuts noise down a lot too. It's quite difficult to make sliding sash double
> -> glazed windows btw or at least insanely expensive.
> -> Graham
> There are plenty of them here in Toronto, including in a brand-new
> house that is being built down the street from mine.
> Here, we don't *make* double-glazed window panes. We buy them. The
> panes are hermetically sealed in a metal frame, and the space in
> between them is filled with bone-dry argon, which conducts heat less
> than air and which won't cause condensation on the interior surfaces
> when they get cold.
I had one window double glazed since it wasn't sliding sash. The local glaziers
made the doubled glazed panel. I even watched them do it.
> Of course, they're a lot heavier than a single pane
> of glass of the same area, so the rest of the window, including the
> counterweights, has to be sized appropriately.
Yes. Nearly caught us out. Had to custom fabricate counterweights of square cross
section made of lead ! Good thing I'm an engineer, the builders were flummoxed.
> Usually, the whole window is factory-built. The house-builder just installs it
in
> a hole
> in the wall.
This is an 1893 house. They HAD to be made to size to fit the hole left by the
old
ones !
> No sane person in this climate uses single-glazed windows. Some people
> use triple-glazed, or windows with fine membranes between the panes to
> reduce convection there.
Which climate is this ? Oh Toronto. OK that figures !
Graham
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>and tax brakes. Make no mistake about it. When considering a PV
>investment you “must” think long term. Amarica is a great place but we
>all seem to want it all right now. My moma used to tell me, She'd say
>Den, "Good things come in time" My Moma never lie's, at least I don't
>think she does }:o)
>Peace along the way
>Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.