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Posted by Lectron_Nuis on April 10, 2007, 10:12 pm
 


G'day Wayne & Auditorium <g>
Just a quick two bobs worth to update you?
As you note, Gimmebutt is back into nymswitching from his ISP.
I can tell you this is an action of frustration.
Execulink have told him (last year) not to nymshift, so he has to be
getting desperate,, and why?
I did what I said I would do.
Teranews were only too happy to see the back of him.
AIOE was disgusted with his actions (Admin there is Italian).
Highwinds have a technical problem but are looking into it.
GN has been notified and I await an outcome there.
btw..that mob are _very_ difficult to deal with..as in "dumb as
dogshit"..and lazy to boot.
Also, because of his use of the PeeDoh word in attempting to bully you
and others, I have dropped his posts into a pool of folks who look
after investigating such online activity. I am a firm believer there
is always a little bit of truth behind every Usenet post and his
attempt to smear others with something he is likely guilty of himself
is just too coincidental. Maybe there is nothing in it, but there is
one sure way to find out :-]

Now, there is any number of "free accounts" he can subscribe to and
post from. I myself have no problem with Gimmebutt posting as long as
he plays "fair" and posts accurate information (to the best of his
ability), but..but, from this point in time on, the minute he steps
out of line?? I am on his case.
Something should have been done to educate this moron years ago but
like yourself and many many others I too did think he was adult enough
to see the stupidity of his own actions.
It is now very evident he has to learn the hard way.
I have written a long detailed letter to Execulink asking for _them_
to write Gimmebut and explain in detail just how to behave in Usenet
forums. Maybe he will listen to those who provide the only Internet
connection he can get.

As to your comments elsewhere about Gimmebutts RE lifestyle (4500W of
PV)??
As a Professional I am rather surprised posters in the RE groups have
not put their thinking caps on and put together a Load Calc for
Gimmebutt.
Given the information his posting profile proves, he currently has
three machines on line at any one time, and for periods of up to four
days. Add to that his need to keep special medication (temperature
controlled) and food of a specific nature (gluten free), plus his
interest in satellite TV, and not forgetting his home embroidery
'business' he runs from that two storey home in Michigan which has to
be kept environmentally  controlled so his cockatiels can cavort
around in, I would offer the resultant recommended PV should have him
scrabbling for some more of those "cheap second hand panels"..remember
that fiasco?[chuckle]

I am out of touch with modern trends both in Aussie and
Internationally (the last Calc I did was for maybe 16kWh per day
max),, but the exercise has to be an interesting one, given this
quicklift of one assessment for "average lifestyle" in the Northern
hemisphere?
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-Much-Power-Does-Your-Home-Consume?&idP9576n
<quote>
The average home electrical usage is a little under 9000 kilowatt
hours (kWh) of electrical power in a year. This averages out to 24.38
kWh per day. This figure varies from home to home and depends on the
insulation of the home and the weather in the area where the home is
located.
</quote>

Onwards and Upwards , Wayne..and never let the bastards grind you down
<BG>

Ln





Posted by George Ghio on April 11, 2007, 9:12 am
 
Lectron_Nuis wrote:

Well, what an interesting thought, you - who to the best of my memory
has yet to post anything remotely resembling a system design asking for
some one else to do a job on SF's fanciful claims. But come now, being a
professional, you should be able to provide more than the following
paragraph. Which, it must be noted, has not so much as a single
meaningful number. I must admit though, that it is almost up there with
waynes best efforts. Unfortunately you have forgotten to include the
weights of any of the equipment.



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Posted by wmbjk on April 12, 2007, 7:59 pm
 On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:38:19 +1000, George Ghio


Just when I thought I'd seen it all. Since you're pretending to call
professionals onto the carpet, why not start with the worst offender?
I challenge you to *QUOTE* (as opposed to your self-destructive habit
of trying to weasel out with non-sequiturs and prevarications), *the*
worst mistake you've ever seen from a professional in these
newsgroups. I can think of several professionals you've attacked on
dozens of occasions, so you should have no trouble showing us your
choice for dumbest quote. But I say you'll find it really close to
home, in this exchange http://tinyurl.com/nwexx . Despite a history of
claiming professionalism and superiority, the writer starts off with
amateurish advice about using a 150A rheostat for small-alternator
field-control. When confronted, he shines a spotlight on his
inexperience by repeatedly recommending the use of "300 kOhms of ni-cr
wire" instead. Which is undeniably wrong by many orders of magnitude,
and clearly demonstrates that the writer doesn't know ohms from
ostriches. Compounding the errors, he's argumentative, deceptive, and
above all unrepentant. Unless and until you can provide a quote that
tops that display of ignorance, it's confirmed for all that you've
willingly accepted the crown of Most Simple Minded "Professional" to
ever post in the RE newsgroups.

Wayne

Posted by George Ghio on April 12, 2007, 9:09 pm
 Wayne for:

Giving weights for equipment.

Claiming to have 1) designed his system and 2) built his house
3) being the general contractor.

Two days autonomy

Seven days autonomy



wmbjk wrote:

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Posted by wmbjk on April 13, 2007, 8:36 pm
 On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:09:03 +1000, George Ghio


I like to see weight specs whenever they help demonstrate equipment
quality. For example, heavier batteries and turbines tend to be better
models.


Measured existing loads at previous home with an old utility meter.
Estimated loads yet-to-be-purchased as best I could. Made damned sure
that cash was available for unanticipated additions and eventualities.
Designed all-electric system to suit the old-fashioned way - when 486s
and 9.6k modems were current tech. Ditched initial supplier because of
his tunnel vision. Bought from a vendor who didn't need to be taught
that max inverter capacity isn't rigidly tied to overall consumption,
or that electric refrigeration was doable.


Built *3* custom homes in the last 22 years, with various levels of
participation. The current one is a 4000 sq.ft building that includes
a hybrid power system, 6 miles of access road up a rocky mountain
slope, an aircraft, and a ranch strip. The plane alone took me about
4000 hours to build. Or put another way -  more work than the average
home, and considerably more challenging. Consider it home #4. Could
have built #5 using only a spoon in the time I spent on the road,
runway, and equipment.


Hired a GC on the first one, did it myself on number 2 and 3.


Only if we stick with our average consumption. We can stretch it out a
little farther if we willing to shift more elective loads. But we
chose a good site, and setup so that wind or sun alone can support our
consumption, a strategy which dramatically limited the need for
autonomy in the first place, and decreases battery wear and tear most
*every* day.


A minimum of seven days when unattended. Could probably double that by
putting the inverters in search mode and turning off more idle loads,
but haven't found the need.

As usual, you pretend to miss the point, and offer only your standard
non sequiturs. The challenge was to *QUOTE* a blunder worse than your
own, by a professional. First, you didn't quote anything from anybody.
Second, I am an amateur. Even if I didn't know a damned thing and
lived in a tent, that wouldn't do anything to prove that you don't
deserve the title of most ignorant professional in RE, *based on your
quoted blunder(s)*. You've attacked several professionals here and
claimed superiority to them on dozens of occasions, yet can't quote a
single post that's worse than your own? That pretty much tells the
tale George. So now you have the crown for worst professional, *and*
most batteries killed. Congratulations, I'm sure there's room on your
fat head. Feel free anytime to provide a quote proving those crowns
belong to someone else, but I doubt there's a single reader who
believes that your incompetence has ever been topped.

Wayne

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