Posted by <theloneranger100 on March 20, 2008, 4:12 am
> May people are asking what is so good about hydrogen cell cars? We
> still have to go to the gas station and by the hydrogen to put in our
> tanks right? Indeed, you probably will have to the gas station because
> regard to one store hydrogen accounts due to the refrigeration
> requirements, as it must a very cold.
> But, hydrogen is a great thing to fuel our cars with because it is the
> most abundant element all the planet and because so many compounds
> containing hydrogen and thus it is really easy to get a hold of.
> Storage is currently the biggest hurdle.
> Imagine making hydrogen out of water; which is two parts hydrogen and
> one part oxygen; The separation is fairly easy with electrolysis and
> when you take the hydrogen from water you are left with oxygen, which
> you can just release if you want to or you can use it for medical
> purposes were some other need such as welding. Oxygen all by itself is
> valuable.
> Hydrogen can also be used in a regular car motor with only a little
> retrofitting. Once the hydrogen is used it doesn't do much polluting
> although there is water that will come out the back of your car. The
> water will be very pure and water is very abundant our planet is well
> and we know that does not hurt anything. These are only a few other
> reasons that hydrogen fuel cells to power our cars in the future make
> so much sense. I hope you will consider this in 2006....
> http://groups.google.com/group/waterforfueld
Yes, on paper dumbass.. The Solar Power group said the same
thing.......Donchaknow?..............
Posted by e on March 20, 2008, 11:29 am
Hydrogen power seems to work well in Norway and Iceland,
where they are moving rapidly from "experimental" to
"mainstream". I drove one and refueled it, and there was
nothing odd about the experience. The refuel point uses
a small unit that converts water to H and O, using power
freely available in those two economies. Impressive.
Posted by <theloneranger100 on March 20, 2008, 12:54 pm
> Hydrogen power seems to work well in Norway and Iceland,
> where they are moving rapidly from "experimental" to
> "mainstream". I drove one and refueled it, and there was
> nothing odd about the experience. The refuel point uses
> a small unit that converts water to H and O, using power
> freely available in those two economies. Impressive.
But it's dangerous to carry hydrogen in your car. When you get hit, there
is no return to life. Not only you, any car involving in that accident.
You forgot what happen to the space Shuttle?
Posted by rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp on March 20, 2008, 1:44 pm
theloneranger100@aol.com wrote:
>> Hydrogen power seems to work well in Norway and Iceland,
>> where they are moving rapidly from "experimental" to
>> "mainstream". I drove one and refueled it, and there was
>> nothing odd about the experience. The refuel point uses
>> a small unit that converts water to H and O, using power
>> freely available in those two economies. Impressive.
>
>
>
> But it's dangerous to carry hydrogen in your car. When you get hit, there
> is no return to life. Not only you, any car involving in that accident.
> You forgot what happen to the space Shuttle?
I'm no fan of hydrogen (in the current energy economy, that is), but
that's a silly argument. What happened to Challenger had very little to
do with a LH2/LOX explosion. In fact, there was no "explosion" of the
liquid hydrogen. It had an uncontained combustion *AFTER* the
significant part of the accident took place, and this combustion had
little effect on what was left of the vehicle. What tore things apart
were the aerodynamic forces acting on a suddenly-destabilized and
relatively fragile vehicle. (Rockets are actually fairly frail things,
designed to operate safely only within very specific environments and
conditions.)
Your better reference might have been the Hindenburg, and even that's a
really bad example.
Actually, gaseous hydrogen is probably one of the least dangerous fuels
to carry around -- probably less so than gasoline. It's got a pretty
low energy density (one of its biggest problems for transportation
purposes), and when released, it tends to go straight up, away from the
vehicle.
Posted by Rodney Long on March 20, 2008, 10:34 pm
theloneranger100@aol.com wrote:
>> Hydrogen power seems to work well in Norway and Iceland,
>> where they are moving rapidly from "experimental" to
>> "mainstream". I drove one and refueled it, and there was
>> nothing odd about the experience. The refuel point uses
>> a small unit that converts water to H and O, using power
>> freely available in those two economies. Impressive.
>
>
>
> But it's dangerous to carry hydrogen in your car. When you get hit, there
> is no return to life. Not only you, any car involving in that accident.
> You forgot what happen to the space Shuttle?
>
>
They solved that many years ago, the fuel tank on A H car is filled
with iron Oxide, this stops the "explodes on contact syndrome" Can't so
that with the Shuttle, as it's too much weight and reduces the amount of
fuel the tanks hold
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> still have to go to the gas station and by the hydrogen to put in our
> tanks right? Indeed, you probably will have to the gas station because
> regard to one store hydrogen accounts due to the refrigeration
> requirements, as it must a very cold.
> But, hydrogen is a great thing to fuel our cars with because it is the
> most abundant element all the planet and because so many compounds
> containing hydrogen and thus it is really easy to get a hold of.
> Storage is currently the biggest hurdle.
> Imagine making hydrogen out of water; which is two parts hydrogen and
> one part oxygen; The separation is fairly easy with electrolysis and
> when you take the hydrogen from water you are left with oxygen, which
> you can just release if you want to or you can use it for medical
> purposes were some other need such as welding. Oxygen all by itself is
> valuable.
> Hydrogen can also be used in a regular car motor with only a little
> retrofitting. Once the hydrogen is used it doesn't do much polluting
> although there is water that will come out the back of your car. The
> water will be very pure and water is very abundant our planet is well
> and we know that does not hurt anything. These are only a few other
> reasons that hydrogen fuel cells to power our cars in the future make
> so much sense. I hope you will consider this in 2006....
> http://groups.google.com/group/waterforfueld