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Posted by Peter on July 29, 2007, 5:51 am
Just returned from a short trip to Germany. I had noticed that many of
my relatives and friends now have pretty good sized solar arrays on
their roofs. When I asked about it they told me that they essentially
pay for the panels out of pocket but then they sell the power back to
the grid at 51 European cents per KWh while to buy one KWh costs 21
cents. The calculation goes that after 10 years the panels are paid off
and you make money. I guess the German government decided instead of
building new power plants they could do this. Of course cost of
electricity has gone up to pay for it.



Posted by Windsun on July 29, 2007, 6:47 am
To say that it went up is an understatement.

In fact it is about 60% more than what the US price is. It is even higher
than Japan, for a long time the highest priced average country in the world.


Posted by Trygve Lillefosse on July 29, 2007, 8:09 pm
 On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:51:38 -0400, Peter

Both those figures sounds realy high. Had no idea that the germans pay
THAT mutch for their electricity.

Are there a lot of taxes or just realy low production?

SEE YA !!!
Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

Posted by Christian Kaiser on July 29, 2007, 9:11 pm
 Trygve Lillefosse wrote:

Yes we do ;-)

Actually I don't complain about the costs - only then will people care
about waste.

Officially, the electricity market is "free" here, but the prices are
said to be held high artificially by the big suppliers. The additional
costs for the subvention of solar electricity is just a tiny part which
can be neglected though.

And: no, there's enough electricity for everybody, so no shortages or
such. Here in Konstanz we get it from Switzerland anyway ;-)

Higher prices also result from higher costs of the standards for
security and ecology (well don't mention the "irregularities" in a
nuclear plant currently rising the issue of nuclear power again).

The good part is that we get and use more and more alternative energy.
Which might put us in an advanced situation in the next decades, for
advanced technology and a lot of alternative energy installations.

Hopefully ;-)

Christian (from Germany)

Posted by BobG on July 30, 2007, 1:00 am
 I think Orlando Utilities must be making electricity from coal at
about 3 cents a KW-hr... they sell it to their big customers starting
at 4 cents... us little people are paying 12 or 15 cents... its hard
to figure because there are various confusion factors like 'fuel
charge' and 'energy charge'... If I divide the bill by the KW-hrs, its
about 15 cents. Surprisingly, if you drive your electric car a mile it
uses about 1/3rd of a KW-hr, so about 5 cents a mile. A car getting 30
mpg with $ a gal gas is getting about 10 cents a mile. Wonder if a
battery change after 5 years is more than 5 years of oil changes?

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