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Posted by Wonderer on March 25, 2007, 1:13 am
In a hydrogen economy with fuel cells ubiquitous everywhere, would you
still need that un-teslaic relic.  It would be neat if you could pipe
hydrogen just like natural gas or run fuel cells of it.  I get a
transmission and generating charge on my electric bill, I would not
mind seeing those go away like the long distance phone tax.  I cant
get that rebate, I have been skypeing the last three years.

Posted by Anthony Matonak on March 25, 2007, 3:41 am
Wonderer wrote:

The short answer is we'll always have an electric grid. It's very
useful in a modern civilization. A hydrogen economy is still just
a faint possibility anyhow and even if they could (or would) pipe
it to your home, you would still need to pay a generation and
delivery charge.


Posted by Trygve Lillefosse on March 25, 2007, 7:59 pm

You would still have to pay for transmission. If the gas bill is
without a transmission part, it's because it's already factored into
the price you pay per unit.

The bad thing with hydrogen is that it is very volatile, and will seap
out even from seemingly solid materials like copper lines. This means
that there will be transmission loss, or that the hydrogen needs to be
bonded to something else under transport and then released. To release
hydrogen from its carrier will offcource need energy - and there you

If the hydrogen economy becomes a reality, I belive that it will be
primarily for mobile devices/transportation and as energy storage in
rural areas(of grid). In your average home, the grid will still be the
main energy source (As for small scale hydrogen production).

SEE YA !!!
Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

Posted by Steve Spence on March 26, 2007, 2:01 am
 There's nothing economical about hydrogen. It's a pipe dream.

Steve Spence
Director, Green-Trust

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