Posted by misterfact on August 7, 2006, 5:02 pm
So how much would a NiMH battery pack or Li-ion pack weigh that would
give an extremely lightweight electric car- a range of 40 miles?
That way- one could charge 3 or 4 of them with photovoltaics and/or a
wind-electric generator while driving on one pack.
We need an extremely lightweight (aluminum/plastic) vehicle that can go
40mph for city driving commuters. The interior could be well padded for
safety with airbags. Low speed accidents would not cause severe injury-
especially if the accidents involve two lightweight vehicles.
Heavier gas guzzlers could be ordered to stay in the right lane at
lower speeds (say- 40mph) and that would be ENFORCED!
Those heavier gas vehicles would go the way of the dinosaurs- a quick
EXTINCTION!
misterfact@yahoo.com
Posted by Jeff on August 8, 2006, 1:00 am
misterfact@yahoo.com wrote:
> So how much would a NiMH battery pack or Li-ion pack weigh
Well, those two are at opposite ends of the weight scale.
that would
> give an extremely lightweight electric car- a range of 40 miles?
>
> That way- one could charge 3 or 4 of them with photovoltaics and/or a
> wind-electric generator while driving on one pack.
You must have missed the stories about the "Tesla".
<URL:
http://www.wired.com/news/wiredmag/0,71414-0.html?tw=wn_story_page_prev2 />
<URL:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/07/20/tesla-roadster-unveiling-in-santa-monica/
/>
<URL: http://www.teslamotors.com/ />
Just add money, lots of money. Lithium ion is not cheap, neither is the
charge/discharge trivial.
Jeff
>
>
> We need an extremely lightweight (aluminum/plastic) vehicle that can go
> 40mph for city driving commuters. The interior could be well padded for
> safety with airbags. Low speed accidents would not cause severe injury-
> especially if the accidents involve two lightweight vehicles.
>
>
> Heavier gas guzzlers could be ordered to stay in the right lane at
> lower speeds (say- 40mph) and that would be ENFORCED!
>
>
> Those heavier gas vehicles would go the way of the dinosaurs- a quick
> EXTINCTION!
>
> misterfact@yahoo.com
>
Posted by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Roland_M=F6sl?= on August 8, 2006, 2:05 am
> So how much would a NiMH battery pack or Li-ion pack weigh that would
> give an extremely lightweight electric car- a range of 40 miles?
This is not usefull.
Every battery has not only a maximal capacity,
it has also a maximal discharge rate.
it has also a maximal charge rate.
A battery for only 40miles would have a to small discharge rate
for fast driving.
> We need an extremely lightweight (aluminum/plastic) vehicle that can go
> 40mph for city driving commuters. The interior could be well padded for
> safety with airbags. Low speed accidents would not cause severe injury-
> especially if the accidents involve two lightweight vehicles.
They create in Germany just the car, You want,
but much better than You want
The LOREMO
http://car.pege.org/2006-loremo
This stands for LOW REsistance MObility.
4 persons
450 kg weight
cw=0,2 front area 1,1m²
The first version will have a 20 hp Diesel engine.
Only 1,5 litre for 100km. Makes 157 mpg.
20 hp are enough for 160km/h or 100mph!
But it's expected, that the next version will be
electric with or withoug range extension with a generator.
A reasonable battery would be 60kg weight, 9 kWh storage
giving 150 km or 90 miles electric only range.
http://car.pege.org/2006-loremo/electric-and-hybrid.htm
The expected energy consumption is 6 kWh/100km.
Now look on Your households electric bill and calculate
how many kms a year, Your electric consumption would
drive such a car.
Even in not so sunny Germany, one squaremeter photovoltaic
would produce so much electric power to drive this car
2000km per year.
For longer travels, even a small generator like this APU
designed for deep freeze trucks would be enough to
extend the range.
http://car.pege.org/2006-hannover/diesel-fuel-cell.htm
If You want to discuss about this car, the company
creating the car has a forum
http://www.loremo.com/forum
--
Roland Mösl
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