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Posted by Morris Dovey on October 10, 2005, 1:24 am
dpadavona@yahoo.com (in
1128905787.270893.92510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com) said:

| I ordered from them in late August.  They immediately charged my
| card and I am still waiting for delivery, and I've had to send them
| flame mails lately to get the ball rolling.
| In the meantime I've built 2 of my own, so I wish I hadn't dealt
| with them to begin with.  Either way it is terrible form for a
| business to charge a credit card with no intention of delivering
| the product within the next 5 weeks.  Screw them.  Stay away from
| Cleardome.

I visited the ClearDome site (http://www.cleardomesolar.com/ ) and
found this notice:

IMPORTANT PRODUCTION INFORMATION: We are presently receiving an
unusually high volume of orders for all heating products so processing
and delivery times are now averaging at least 4-6 weeks for our solar
Exterior solar forced air heaters and 1-3 weeks for the thermal
fabrics. We've temporily stopped taking new orders for the popular Low
Profiles solar forced air heaters because demand has exceeded our
present supply. We haven't been able to build them fast enough and
need to catch up with the existing orders. We're hoping to begin
selling them again by first week of November, so check on availability
by then.

You might give them a call at (619) 990-7977 to check yor order
status. If you aren't satisfied with their response, you can cancel
the order and require a reversal of the credit card transaction (if
necessary, you can get help from the California Attorney General's

They may be experiencing legitimate difficulties but I can agree that
it isn't good form to run the charge before having the order ready to

Congrats on building two of your own! If they're working well for you,
please do post some how-to information. Posting photos on
news:alt.binary.pictures.woodworking would encourage and help others
to follow in your footsteps.

Good luck!

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by dpadavona on October 10, 2005, 2:14 am
They've replied by email that they are fed-exing to me this week.  The
point is I had to rattle some cages to get to that point.  :)

Posted by Morris Dovey on October 10, 2005, 3:36 am
 dpadavona@yahoo.com (in
1128910487.394646.12660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com) said:

| They've replied by email that they are fed-exing to me this week.
| The point is I had to rattle some cages to get to that point.  :)

Glad it worked out for you. Please keep in mind that small operations
are normally vulnerable to all kinds of problems leading to delays;
and that this kind of delivery delay is usually at least as stressful
for them as it is for you, since you order is probably not the only
one affected...

Once you have their product installed, let us know if you think it was
worth the wait - and I'm still interested in the panels you built
(always looking for good ideas!)

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Morris Dovey on September 26, 2005, 12:22 am
 Jim O'R (in Xns96DCB9ED9F710JCOr@ said:

| Can someone point me to a vender.  (Or give me appropriate seach
| words for Google.)


I produce passive solar heating panels. You can see photos and prices
by following the link in my sig.

Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA

Posted by Gary on September 26, 2005, 2:35 am
 Jim O'R wrote:

Commercial collectors tend to be in the $0 per sqft and up area.

You might look into seeing if you can find someone to build the
collector on site.  Site built collectors can be less involved, in
that they can use the house itself for the back wall and for support.
  They avoid the cost of shipping and the collectors don't have to be
strong enough to withstand shipping.  The materials for simple site
built air collectors can be as little as $ to $ per sqft.  So, you
might be able to find someone to build them on site and come out
ahead. I would expect that you will need to do a good job of defining
exactly how you want them built in order to get a reasonable bid.

Take a look here for some ideas:

Another option might be to have a simple, low thermal mass sunspace
built on the south wall.  The heat from the sunspace can then be
circulated to the house.  The materials cost per sqft for these sun
spaces can be very low depending on what type of construction you use.
  Take a look here for some ideas:

In very rough terms, if the collectors or glazed area of the sunspace
don't exceed 20% of the floor space you want to heat, you probably
won't need to add thermal storage. You can just collect heat on sunny
days letting the house thermal mass store some of it to reduce the
after sunset heating.

You could also consider insulation, caulking, window treatments -- all
of these may have a better payoff than collectors, and are a good
first step.  As starting place:
The Harley book is very good.

You might also look at what incentives your state and the new energy
bill might provide.


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