An improved solar attic

Posted by nicksanspam on December 18, 2005, 8:25 pm

When a local couple considered a "solar addition," it turned out the first
and second floor levels of the south wall were mostly shaded by evergreens,
including trees on the neighbors's property, but the roof had lots of sun.
It's about 20'x40' with a 4' high ridge running east and west. I suggested
removing the south roof and extending the north roof up to the south beyond
the ridge at the same angle to make a shed attic with an 8'x40' transparent
south wall. Soldier's Grove solar attics used blowers to move hot air down
to the building, but water is simpler and uses less power and makes heat
storage easier in a slow draindown system with an unpressurized heat storage
tank on the ground. The house has a gas furnace.

NREL says 1000 Btu/ft^2 falls on a south wall on an average 30.4 F January day
with a 37.9 max in Phila, so a \$20 8'x40' Dynaglas wall would collect 900x8x40
= 288K Btu on an average day, or more, with a reflective deck to the south and/
or a reflective overhang (which could also prevent overheating in summertime.)

With 120 F water in an 800 Btu/h-F auto radiator and fan near the peak and
insulation under the roof, it might look like this, viewed in a fixed font:

---        1/320
|---|-->|-------www--- 34 F
---    |
288K/6h  x
= 48K Btu/h |
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

Opening the circuit at x makes the solar (Thevenin) equivalent temperature
34+48K/320 = 184 F, like this:

1/320
184 F ---www---
|
x
|
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

... which might collect (184-120)/(1/320+1/800) = 14.6K Btu/h or 87.8K Btu/day,
enough to make lots of hot water for showers (with a \$0 300'x1" PE pressurized
pipe coil in the heat storage tank) and provide some space heat. The attic temp
might be 120+14.6K/800 = 138 F. We might also circulate some attic air through
a filter and the 2nd floor of the house.

This seems efficient, even if the upstairs needs little heat. A dark mesh
near the glazing (eg black aluminum window screen) with 70 F house air flowing
through it could greatly lower the heat loss by convection through the glazing,
as in a Scandinavian "breathing wall." With 70 F air near the glazing, we might
capture up to 288K-6h(70-34)320ft^2/R1 = 218.9K Btu on an average January day.
Polycarbonate blocks longwave IR, but there would still be radiation loss from
the mesh to the glazing.

http://www.cibse.org/pdfs/8cimbabi.pdf  has an equation for the dynamic
metric U-value of a breathing wall, as corrected:

Ud = VRhoaCa/(e^(VRhoaCaRs)-1) W/m^2K, where

V is the air velocity in meters per second,
Rhoa is air density, 1.2 kg/m^3,
Ca is the air's specific heat, 1000 J/(kg-K), and
Rs is the wall's static thermal resistance in m^2-K/W.

Using V = 1/3600 (1 meter per HOUR :-), and Rs = 5.7 m^2K/W (a US R32 wall),
Ud = 0.058 W/m^2, like a US R98 wall. A more typical V = 10 meters per hour
makes Ud = 1.7x10^-8 W/m^2K, like a US wall with an R-value of 334 million :-)

If 1 meter per hour (0.0055 fpm) flows through 320 ft^2 of mesh, the total is
17.5 cfm... 100 lfm up into a 1' wide x 2x4 cavity 8' tall with a 0.29 ft^2
cross section (29 cfm per linear foot of wall) would not increase the glazing
loss much over still air. In that case, the total airflow would be 320x29
= 9300 cfm. So it looks like a wide range of airflow is possible, depending
on how much heat the house needs.

With no mesh and 2 glazing layers, eg sliding glass doors, we might have this:

2/320
Tsun  ---www---         Tsun = 34+259K/6/(2/320) = 304 F.
|
x
|
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

.... which might collect (304-120)/(2/320+1/800) = 24.5K Btu/h or 147.2K
Btu/day with a 120+24.5K/800 = 151 F attic temp. (We datalogged 157 F in
December of 1995 in the sunspace of our phone-booth-size experiment at
Ursinus college.)

We might start by drilling holes from the inside of the attic with a long bit
near the ridge next to the present rafters, then Sawzall a rafter-size piece
of roof from the outside and slip a 12' 2x6 into each hole parallel to the
rafter and bolt the bottom foot to the rafter, then build the new roof, then
remove the old one (or not) and build the wall...

I bought a used 1984 Dodge Omni automobile radiator for \$5. We might attach
a \$0 Lasko 2470 cfm 90 watt window fan to it... 800/5 = 160' of fin-tube pipe
with no fan would cost about \$20. I like that better, since it is simpler and
uses less electrical energy and the fan may not last very long over 100 F. (My
640 ft^2 Dynaglas solar attic has a \$33 2764 cfm 275 W Swedish Multifan with
special ball bearings and lubricant rated for 311 F.)

Nick

Posted by tom on December 19, 2005, 6:56 am

Good thinking!  Tom

Posted by nicksanspam on December 19, 2005, 1:58 pm
When a local couple considered a "solar addition," it turned out the first
and second floor levels of the south wall were mostly shaded by evergreens,
including trees on the neighbors's property, but the roof had lots of sun.

It's about 20'x40', with a 4' high ridge running east and west. I suggested
removing the south roof and extending the north roof up to the south beyond
the ridge at the same angle to make a shed attic with an 8'x40' transparent
south wall. Soldier's Grove solar attics used blowers to move hot air down to
the building, but water is simpler and pumps use less power and make heat
storage easier in a slow draindown system with an unpressurized heat storage
tank on the ground. The house has a gas furnace.

NREL says 1000 Btu/ft^2 falls on a south wall on an average 30.4 F January day
with a 37.9 max in Phila, so a \$20 (\$.02 per peak watt :-) 8'x40' Dynaglas
corrugated polycarbonate wall would collect 900x8x40 = 288K Btu on an average
day, or more, with a reflective deck to the south and/or a reflective overhang
(which could also prevent overheating in summertime.)

With 120 F water in an 800 Btu/h-F auto radiator and fan near the peak and
insulation under the roof, it might look like this, viewed in a fixed font:

---        1/320
|---|-->|-------www--- 34 F
---    |
288K/6h  x
= 48K Btu/h |
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

Opening the circuit at x makes the solar (Thevenin) equivalent temperature
34+48K/320 = 184 F, like this:

1/320
184 F ---www---
|
x
|
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

... which might collect (184-120)/(1/320+1/800) = 14.6K Btu/h or 87.8K Btu/day,
enough to make lots of hot water for showers (with a \$0 300'x1" PE pressurized
pipe coil in the heat storage tank) and provide some space heat. The attic temp
might be 120+14.6K/800 = 138 F. We might also circulate some attic air through
a filter and the 2nd floor. The present furnace might spread the heat around
the house.

This seems efficient, even if the upstairs needs little heat. A dark mesh
near the glazing (eg black aluminum window screen) with 70 F house air flowing
through it could greatly lower the heat loss by convection through the glazing,
as in a Scandinavian "breathing wall." With 70 F air near the glazing, we might
capture up to 288K-6h(70-34)320ft^2/R1 = 218.9K Btu on an average January day.
In full sun, with 225x340 = 76500 Btu/h entering and (70-34)320 = 11520 leaving
the attic, one attic temp upper limit would be 120+(76500-11520)/800 = 201 F.
Polycarbonate blocks longwave IR, but there would still be radiation loss
from the mesh to the glazing.

http://www.cibse.org/pdfs/8cimbabi.pdf  has an equation for the dynamic
metric U-value of a breathing wall, as corrected:

Ud = VRhoaCa/(e^(VRhoaCaRs)-1) W/m^2K, where

V is the air velocity in meters per second,
Rhoa is air density, 1.2 kg/m^3,
Ca is the air's specific heat, 1000 J/(kg-K), and
Rs is the wall's static thermal resistance in m^2-K/W.

Using V = 1/3600 (1 meter per HOUR :-), and Rs = 5.7 m^2K/W (a US R32 wall),
Ud = 0.058 W/m^2, like a US R98 wall. A more typical V = 10 meters per hour
makes Ud = 1.7x10^-8 W/m^2K, like a US wall with an R-value of 334 million :-)

If 1 meter per hour (0.0055 fpm) flows through 320 ft^2 of mesh, the total is
17.5 cfm... 100 lfm up into a 1' of 2x4 cavity 8' tall with a 0.29 ft^2 cross
section (29 cfm per linear foot of wall) would not increase the glazing loss
much over still air. In that case, the total airflow would be 40x29 = 1160 cfm.
With no water flow, we'd have something like this:

Ta = 70+I/1160 = 95 F.
|
1/320  | 1/1160
184 F ---www-------www--- 70 F
I -->

I = (184-70)/(1/320+1/1160) = 28.6K Btu/h.

It looks like a wide range of airflow is possible, depending on how much
heat the house needs.

With no mesh and 2 glazing layers, eg sliding glass doors, we might have this:

2/320
Tsun  ---www---         Tsun = 34+259K/6h/(2/320) = 304 F.
|
x
|
w
w 1/800
w
|
|
|

120 F

.... which might collect (304-120)/(2/320+1/800) = 24.5K Btu/h or 147.2K
Btu/day with a 120+24.5K/800 = 151 F attic temp. (We datalogged 157 F in
December of 1995 in the sunspace of our phone-booth-sized experiment at
Ursinus college.)

We might start by drilling holes from the inside of the attic with a long bit
near the ridge next to the present rafters, then Sawzall a rafter-size piece
of roof from the outside and slip a 12' 2x6 into each hole parallel to the
north rafter and bolt the bottom foot to the rafter, then build the new roof,
then remove the old one (or not) and build the wall...

I bought a used 1984 Dodge Omni automobile radiator for \$5. We might attach
a \$0 Lasko 2470 cfm 90 watt window fan to it... 800/5Btu/h-F-ft = 160' of
fin-tube pipe with no fan would cost about \$20. That's simpler, it uses less
electrical energy, and the fan may not last very long at 151 F. (My 640 ft^2
Dynaglas solar attic has a \$33 2764 cfm 275 W Swedish Multifan with special
ball bearings and lubricant rated for 311 F.)

Nick

Posted by The Real Bev on December 19, 2005, 8:37 pm
No it's not.

See the problem?

--
Cheers,
Bev
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Posted by nicksanspam on December 19, 2005, 9:58 pm

The solar attic is not improved?

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