Posted by Jamie on June 3, 2010, 12:43 am
Michael wrote:
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>>>I bought a rechargeable drill from them awhile back, and the NiCd
>>>battery charger doesn't even have a sensor telling when charging is
>>>done. You have to guess when it's done charging.
>>
>>I have one; that is exactly true and is clearly mentioned in the manual!
Forget
>>and leave the battery in the charger for a couple days and you can kiss that
>>battery goodbye. I bought 2 of those drill kits so I could have 2 batteries
>>plus spare parts. Already, one of the chargers has died. Also the chuck tends
>>to come unscrewed when you run the drill backwards, making it 50% usless as a
>>screwdriver. Further, the batteries self-discharge after sitting about two
>>weeks, so it will always be dead if you only use it occasionally. Other than
>>all that stuff, it honestly is a strong, useful drill.
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>
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> Yep it's way strong. 18V. Battery is flat every time I want to use
> it though. 15 mins of charging gets it juiced up enough for most of
> my tasks. I'm sure I've hosed the battery with such short charges
> though.
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> Thanks for the advisory re: drilling backwards.
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> I was freaked out once when I unplugged the power brick (with the
> battery still attached) and the brick got warmer and warmer... that
> was strange. Tried to remember never to do that again...
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>
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>>>Dad wanted to buy same drill (on sale for $5); I talked him out of it.
>>
>>Same here. I bought him a new lithium Ryobi kit just yesterday. He will get
if
>>for his 92nd birthday next month!
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> That's a good idea for a Father's Day gift... thanks for the idea!
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>>Vaughn
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> Michael
Its normal for those kind of batteries to go dead after that much time..
And leaving them off the charger between uses is the best thing you can
do. You'll get a lot more service time from the cells that way..
I have a 7 year old fire storm (cheap) 3/8 B&D drill that I Use at
least every other day for mostly driving machine screws, drilling and
driving a Tap to thread holds up to 1/4 inch, the Reverse/Forward switch
is very sloppy now from the TAP driving and the slip clutch has seen
better das but the batteries still take a good charge and last a
reasonable time period... And these are NiCads
Posted by Jamie on June 3, 2010, 12:36 am
vaughn wrote:
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>>I bought a rechargeable drill from them awhile back, and the NiCd
>>battery charger doesn't even have a sensor telling when charging is
>>done. You have to guess when it's done charging.
>
>
> I have one; that is exactly true and is clearly mentioned in the manual!
Forget
> and leave the battery in the charger for a couple days and you can kiss that
> battery goodbye. I bought 2 of those drill kits so I could have 2 batteries
> plus spare parts. Already, one of the chargers has died. Also the chuck
tends
> to come unscrewed when you run the drill backwards, making it 50% usless as a
> screwdriver. Further, the batteries self-discharge after sitting about two
> weeks, so it will always be dead if you only use it occasionally. Other than
> all that stuff, it honestly is a strong, useful drill.
>
>
>>Dad wanted to buy same drill (on sale for $5); I talked him out of it.
>
>
> Same here. I bought him a new lithium Ryobi kit just yesterday. He will get
if
> for his 92nd birthday next month!
>
>
> Vaughn
>
>
Next time that chuck comes unscrewed, put RED thread lock in there
before screwing it back in.. You'll have no more issues after that..
P.S.
That problem happens to well known brands also along with chargers
going dead.
Posted by Michael A. Terrell on June 3, 2010, 1:54 am
vaughn wrote:
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> >I bought a rechargeable drill from them awhile back, and the NiCd
> >battery charger doesn't even have a sensor telling when charging is
> >done. You have to guess when it's done charging.
>
> I have one; that is exactly true and is clearly mentioned in the manual!
Forget
> and leave the battery in the charger for a couple days and you can kiss that
> battery goodbye. I bought 2 of those drill kits so I could have 2 batteries
> plus spare parts.
I have one that I used for five years before the battery died.
Another pair that lasted three years. I recently bought a pair of this
18V drill. They charger is two piece, and has an indicator that the
battery is fully charged. If you can't remeber to unplug the charger,
buy a timer.
<http://www.harborfreight.com/18-volt-3-8-eighth-inch-drill-with-keyless-chuck-93440.html>
> Already, one of the chargers has died. Also the chuck tends
> to come unscrewed when you run the drill backwards, making it 50% usless as a
> screwdriver.
That only happens if the retaining screw is missing.
> Further, the batteries self-discharge after sitting about two
> weeks, so it will always be dead if you only use it occasionally.
I've never seen that in any of their tools. I've picked up one that
hasn't been used in months and used it without needed to charge the
battery.
What model number is it?
> Other than all that stuff, it honestly is a strong, useful drill.
>
> >Dad wanted to buy same drill (on sale for $5); I talked him out of it.
>
> Same here. I bought him a new lithium Ryobi kit just yesterday. He will get
if
> for his 92nd birthday next month!
>
> Vaughn
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Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
Posted by vaughn on June 3, 2010, 11:54 am
> They charger is two piece, and has an indicator that the
> battery is fully charged.
Mine is 2-piece, but only has a charging indicator. The manual clearly states
that the charger is not automatic and is capable of overcharging the battery.
> If you can't remeber to unplug the charger, buy a timer.
No! If the design of the battery is such that the batery discharges through
the charger when it loses power...what do you think will happen after the timer
turns off the charger?
What I actually do is lay my car keys next to the charger.
Vaughn
Posted by GregS on June 3, 2010, 3:20 pm
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>> They charger is two piece, and has an indicator that the
>> battery is fully charged.
>Mine is 2-piece, but only has a charging indicator. The manual clearly states
>that the charger is not automatic and is capable of overcharging the battery.
>> If you can't remeber to unplug the charger, buy a timer.
> No! If the design of the battery is such that the batery discharges through
>the charger when it loses power...what do you think will happen after the timer
>
>turns off the charger?
>What I actually do is lay my car keys next to the charger.
>Vaughn
I have had 3 Alltrade kawasaki drills. One trigger went bad. One intermittant.
One still works. I can probably fix again the intermittant, and I
need to order the trigger for about $5.\What a mess with the Nicds.
First set of 19 volts works OK, and the charger seemed to work OK, but
they recalled it. Got a rebate. Second 19 volt came with a 4 hour manual
charger, that I have really begun to mess up the batteries by
overcharging. The newest 21 volt and charger have been OK except for
the intermmitant. The charger is basically a 1 hour timer which seems OK.
In the interim bought a Sears Lithium, only one battery. Good but
it does not have as low a clutch as the Alltrade which can
be a problem. the direction is also reversed which drives me crazy.
greg
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>>>I bought a rechargeable drill from them awhile back, and the NiCd
>>>battery charger doesn't even have a sensor telling when charging is
>>>done. You have to guess when it's done charging.
>>
>>I have one; that is exactly true and is clearly mentioned in the manual!