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Posted by Rhongh Dhongh on December 20, 2005, 2:14 am
 

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I thought they would be interesting to readers of the energy
newsgroups.

There is something to be said for doing what you think is right,
even if it costs you more than not doing it.

That's what using solar panels and other alternative forms of
energy amounts to.

People who do nothing but look at payback time for solar panels or
other forms of alternative energy are missing the forest for the
trees.

If people would wean themselves from oil-based electricity, even
if it is not economic to start with, it would be an incentive for
researchers and entrepreneurs to come up with more efficient solar
panels and other methods of generating heat and electricity.



ChrisZell@clearchannel.com writes:

The latest EE Times ( Dec. 12) has a cover article on T.J. Rodgers
and Cypress Semiconductors getting into solar power, big-time.
They bought a former disk-drive plant in Manila, Phillipines to
crank out wafers.  "We fully anticipate the Philippines fab being
capable of turning out the equivalent of 100 megawatts a year" a
spokeman said.

They hope to up the efficiency and knock prices down to $.50 a
watt.

High oil prices could be the best thing that ever happened to
alternative energy.  I hope such prices continue for several years
so as to establish alternatives firmly - in some cases, with wind
and solar power, the equipment won't get ripped out just because
oil prices decline. The oil companies and OPEC nations will get
stuck competing against decentralized sources that won't go away.

Heck, all we really need is a bit more electricity per year and
some other way to power automoblies and we're done with
terrorists, Middle East instability, much of the trade deficit,
and a host of other problems.





Posted by Dan Bloomquist on December 20, 2005, 2:26 am
 


Rhongh Dhongh wrote:


If solar panels cost some $5/watt it destroys capital. Capital that
could be used for R&D to get the cost of solar thermal electric farms
down to $/watt. It may feel good if you throw the numbers out.

I prefer not to.

Best, Dan.

--
"We need an energy policy that encourages consumption"
George W. Bush.

"Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a
sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."
Vice President Dick Cheney


Posted by Steve Spence on December 20, 2005, 3:09 am
 Dan Bloomquist wrote:

It's a dang good thing that PV isn't $5 / watt, $/watt is bad enough.


--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

Posted by Dan Bloomquist on December 20, 2005, 3:19 am
 

Steve Spence wrote:


That is $ a 'peak watt'. But, you knew that....

Best, Dan.

--
"We need an energy policy that encourages consumption"
George W. Bush.

"Conservation may be a sign of personal virtue, but it is not a
sufficient basis for a sound, comprehensive energy policy."
Vice President Dick Cheney


Posted by Steve Spence on December 20, 2005, 3:23 am
 Dan Bloomquist wrote:

So what kind of watts are you talking about? Peak watts is how pv is
rated and sold.

--
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust, http://www.green-trust.org
Contributing Editor, http://www.off-grid.net
http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html

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