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Posted by Jack on November 4, 2003, 12:04 pm
 
Don Kelly wrote:

Exactly, thermal energy source is provided by sunshine.


exactly

The "water fuel cell",

but solve the problem of generating electrical energy from thermal
energy.
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Posted by Don Kelly on November 5, 2003, 3:09 am
 



system.

needed.


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Yes- and if you get energy from this - use it -omitting all the rest which
is a net absorvber of energy-why waste what you have?.

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Which appears to be a scam. Don't count on it.
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Neither will do this. Study the thermodynamics of each.

What you are doing is neglecting the physics of the situation in favour of
wishful thinking.

By the way, do you know the purpose of a "membrane" in a Peltier membrane
for thermionic conversion? Do you know the thermodynamics of osmosis? Do you
know that there is no device which will produce electrical energy without an
input of a greater amount of energy from some other source?
In total -while your intentions are good, they are not supported by physics
or thermodynamics nor by some very questionable "water fuel cell" or Peltier
membranes (at least the latter work, poorly and do require greater energy
iunput than one gets out).
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Posted by Jack on November 5, 2003, 12:27 pm
 Don Kelly wrote:

Thanks Don, but you are not right.
Peltier modules work great.
There is no Peltier membranes yet, I am just working on to make one to
use in my 6-layer ENERGY WAFER.

And please stop your general speaking about physics and thermodynamics.
My concept of 6-LAYER ENERGY WAFER is excellent and feasible.
Each ENERGY LAYER is already operational and on the market.
I am integrating 6 forms of renewable energy generators into one wafer.
That's all. My 6-layer energy wafer is ok and is not against any rules
of science.
There is nothing mysterious in making 6-layer renewable energy generator
wafer.
Much better contact me with manufacturers of Peltier modules to arrange
some R&D work to be done, to manufacture first Peltier membrane as soon
as possible.
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Jack
Inventor of Tomosonography and Tomoultrasonography.  
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Posted by Don Kelly on November 5, 2003, 8:41 pm
 



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surre they do - energy in- energy out -just less energy  out than there is
in.

In fact some do exist and interesting conversion techniques using catalytic
burning of fuel are being explored- so far efficiency far less than 1% at a
500 C temperature difference and low output.
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Why- that is the crux of the matter.
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You have not attempted to show that and have avoided questions regarding the
physics. What you say for some components is fine- for others it is nonsense
and for the overall concept the nonsense wins out.
Peltier OK, solar OK, water fuel cell-not OK, overall energy conversion
concept -hand waving- not based on an understanding of what takes place. Can
you show the energy balances in your system- i.e. where the energy
originates, how it is used and what is left over- You apparently are
thinking of a source followed by a set of sinks which waste energy.

My opinion stands- you have shown no fundamental understanding of the
physics and energy balances involved. Without that, why should I consider
you any more seriously than I would consider any of the perpetual motion and
overunity cranks and scams?

Have fun
Bye,
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Posted by Jack on November 5, 2003, 10:09 pm
 Don Kelly wrote:

you are not correct
I am building my 6-layer renewable energy generator wafer
to transform heat energy into electrical energy
and Peltier is great but still to expensive.


I have already tested cold fusion cells, especially H2 cells
and now wait for delivery of ethanol/methanol fuel cell membranes for
testing purposes.

There is no fuel in my 6-layer wafer.
The only fuel is heat from sunshine and rain water to power water fuel
cell, once on the market.
Peltier is to transform heat energy into electrical energy and to cool
solar cell. Both Piezo and Electret are intended to use energy of sea
waves.
I have already got very small size generator powered by wind energy.

but your comments are irrelevant


exactly, still under development

and have avoided questions regarding the

what questions abut ?
Peltier ?
Piezo ?
solar cell ?
cold fusion cell ?
Electret ?
very small wind energy powered generators ?

You get your questions already answered on the net.
Go to Google and ask your question.

What you say for some components is fine- for others it is nonsense

concept is great and excellent
I have already got 2 companies interested to support me with funding and
materials supply .
 

water fuel cell is still under development
let us see what we get in few next months

overall energy conversion

there is no hand waving
6-layer wafer floating on the sea as life saving equipment.
In the meantime got concept of 7th layer from another company.

Can

sunshine, heat energy is transformed by solar cell, Peltier into
electrical energy
sea wave energy is transferred by Piezo/Electret into electrical
energy,  water fuel cell generates electrical energy
small wind energy powered generators supply electrical energy
7th layer still under development
 
You apparently are

not exactly
energy comes from 5 sources and is transformed into electrical energy
in the night work Piezo/Electret layers or wind energy layer as option,
water fuel cell layer as option
7th layer chemical fuel cell is on only for a short time

you are wrong
each layer works independently, generating electrical energy given
conditions are met
Without that, why should I consider

stupid comment
is Peltier something wrong to you ?
is Piezo ?
is solar cell ?
is sea wave energy ?
is cold fusion ?
is wind energy ?
is chemical fuel cell ?

what's wrong with you ?
Anyway, I am going to build 10-layer renewable energy life-saving
floating wafer.



to see you next year

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