Posted by Rick... (The other Rick) on November 4, 2008, 11:47 am
I wonder what the price is...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
Rick... (The other Rick)
Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
"for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
Posted by Morris Dovey on November 7, 2008, 6:18 am
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
> I wonder what the price is...
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
>
> Rick... (The other Rick)
>
> Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
> "for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
So what's holding you back? :-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/
Posted by Rick... (The other Rick) on November 8, 2008, 7:34 am
>Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
>> I wonder what the price is...
>>
>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
>>
>> Rick... (The other Rick)
>>
>> Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
>> "for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
>So what's holding you back? :-)
Money, or rather lack of :(
I reckon that I could build everything but the generator.
On a more serious note, I wonder when Stirling generators will be more commonly
available, and at an
affordable price. By that I mean available to the home market.
I have been looking at CLF arrays driving a steam engine / generator. On
investigation, the steam
side of things seems to have lots of pitfalls.
I am currently waiting for details of the White Cliffs installation in Australia
http://www.rossen.ch/solar/wcengine.html
I even looked at Thermopiles
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/thermoelectric/thermoelectric.htm
but to get any usable power, it costs a lot!!!
To paraphrase Robert A Heinlein "There Ain't No Such Thing As Free Power"
Rick... (The other Rick)
Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
"for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
Posted by Morris Dovey on November 8, 2008, 10:44 am
Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
>>> I wonder what the price is...
>>>
>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick... (The other Rick)
>>>
>>> Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end "for
>>> nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
>> So what's holding you back? :-)
>
> Money, or rather lack of :(
>
> I reckon that I could build everything but the generator.
>
> On a more serious note, I wonder when Stirling generators will be
> more commonly available, and at an affordable price. By that I mean
> available to the home market.
The mechanical Stirling will probably always be price-comparable to a
two-cylinder two-cycle internal combustion engine. That's what sparked
my interest in fluidynes - which are "plumbed" stirling cycle engines,
rather than "machined". If you can build a trough and do some basic
plumbing, then take a look at
http//www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Projects/Stirling/Fluidyne.html for ideas.
> To paraphrase Robert A Heinlein "There Ain't No Such Thing As Free
> Power"
Agreed, but I think it's possible to produce power a lot less
expensively than most folks think.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Posted by Mauried on November 8, 2008, 5:12 pm
On 8 Nov 2008 06:34:01 -0600, "Rick... (The other Rick)"
>>Rick... (The other Rick) wrote:
>>> I wonder what the price is...
>>>
>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
>>>
>>> Rick... (The other Rick)
>>>
>>> Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
>>> "for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
>>
>>So what's holding you back? :-)
>Money, or rather lack of :(
>I reckon that I could build everything but the generator.
>On a more serious note, I wonder when Stirling generators will be more commonly
available, and at an
>affordable price. By that I mean available to the home market.
>I have been looking at CLF arrays driving a steam engine / generator. On
investigation, the steam
>side of things seems to have lots of pitfalls.
>I am currently waiting for details of the White Cliffs installation in Australia
>http://www.rossen.ch/solar/wcengine.html
>I even looked at Thermopiles
>http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/POWER/thermoelectric/thermoelectric.htm
>but to get any usable power, it costs a lot!!!
>To paraphrase Robert A Heinlein "There Ain't No Such Thing As Free Power"
>Rick... (The other Rick)
>Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
>"for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]
The major problem with this type of power generator is the curved
mirrors.
These are expensive and hard to make unless you have access to a glass
grinding machine.
Its far better to use flat mirrors even if the efficiency is less.
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4288743.html?series
>
> Rick... (The other Rick)
>
> Science and sound engineering will always prevail in the end
> "for nature cannot be fooled" [Feynman]