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Posted by News on December 24, 2003, 12:23 am
 


Gibberish?  Please?


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Posted by News on December 23, 2003, 3:10 pm
 


directed

He gave me this URL:
http://www.deadbeatdad.org/eliptoid/menu2.htm

Many designs of alternative engines with many running.  The Aussie unit by
RevTec is in production. Not a rotary, shame, but an improvement on the
current IC deign.

A number of these designs conceptually are very appealing and only require
r&d, which means money.




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Posted by Nick Pine on December 23, 2003, 3:13 pm
 Just a reminder that "internal combustion" is off-topic in alt.solar.thermal.

Nick


Posted by Bob Peterson on December 22, 2003, 4:30 pm
 

<<snip>>


I don't doubt the the 'concept" might well be better.  getting from concept
to a real life useful and economical product is a HUGE step.  And one that
very few products ever make, for varying reasons.


motorcycles

flying.

I readily admit the wankel is a "better" design.  But it is not "better"
enough to make it worth the effort to switch to such an engine.  otherwise
the big car companies would have pruchased to rights to the engine or
designed there own by now.


manufacturing

I am always suspicious of any company that has such a radical design, a lot
of hype, and very little in the way of actual information about it. Their
amateurish PR efforts make it look like a scam, even if it is not.


crankshaft


Posted by News on December 22, 2003, 8:31 pm
 

concept

If the concept is sound and a prototype is running, which one is, the rest
isn't that difficult.  The auto makers need an incentive to make them adopt
more efficient design, like government legistalation on emissions, fuel
usage and overall efficiency.  Otherwise the auto giants will just sit there
for ever making outdated power units.

Anyone who think they would willingly snap up any design that is more
efficient is in cloud cuckoo land.  Their track record is poor to appalling
on innovation, so why should they willingly be any different now.


It got off to a poor start.  The NSU Ro80's engine was underdeveloped giving
a rotten reputation.  Mazda actually solved the sealing problem for them if
my memory is correct.

I nearly bought one for buttons as the rotary required seals.  Ford V4
conversions were available (a lousy engine prone to going up in flames).
http://www.telebyte.nl/~hug/


MI-34V.

"very little in the way of actual information"?  Please?  Their web site is
full of information.  They will respond to emails and they also have a
teaching prototype.   Major journals speak highly of the design.  It is
probably a matter of when the fuel cell is back burnered, this will
seriously looked at.


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