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Posted by Rusty Shackleford on December 23, 2003, 3:22 am

Those incentives are in place.  *IF* what you say is true, auto
manufacturers have already invested heavily in those engines, but
given them up despite large investments and big incentives.  That
tells us something.  

Posted by News on December 23, 2003, 9:54 am

This one sounds like an auto corp'n troll.  What inceptives?  I see no heavy
tightening of economy and emissions regs about to burst forth that precludes
the piston engine.

I gave the Orital which you implied you had never heard of.   I'll play your
game.  References please?

The "big" incentives were to drag their feet using public money on projects
such as the fuel cell and electric drives.  Any other r&d is on the back
burner.  Giving money to auto companies is silly.  Their track record on
change and innovation is appalling.  Other institutions should have been
given the money.  When proven, viable power units are available then tighten
the regs, so that the auto giants have to fall in line and adopt them.

Look at the 1960s and what the auto giants did over safety - Nader.  And in
the 1970s over emissions.  They spent fortunes legally fighting both instead
of getting on with the job.  A bunch of tossers, the lot of them.  They hate


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Posted by Rusty Shackleford on December 24, 2003, 2:42 am

Do you look?  They are already in place, emission standards as well as
average fleet economy.  

ROTFLMAO!!!  Your posts!  Remember, you claimed all the major
manufactures bought licenses and a couple even set up factories.  It's
OK, we don't believe what you say either.  

Hardly.  The big incentives are things like "your line will produce
less than xx emissions" and "your average fleet economy will be xx"  

So, give us an example of proven, viable alternative power units.
BTW, your orbital engine is neither proven nor viable at this time.  

Posted by News on December 24, 2003, 3:21 am


Strict aren't they?

Did you look?  NO!



Not my engine.

Read some more.

You are either a troll or a bad guesser.


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Posted by Rusty Shackleford on December 24, 2003, 4:33 am

Hey, you asked for a reference, I gave you a reference.  

I'm neither, I've read it all.  Just because you say it doesn't make
it true.  

Why is it, given the large investment the auto makers have made in
this engine (according to you) that they aren't using it?  

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